|
Community Links |
Social Groups |
Pictures & Albums |
Members List |
Search Forums |
Advanced Search |
Go to Page... |
|
Thread Tools |
03-25-2017, 03:03 PM | #1 |
Cobra Viper
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Pax,WV
Posts: 101
|
I've been away from the Joe world for a while now. But back when I was really into Army Building in the early to mid 2000's you could go on e-Bay, and at least 80% or more of the Joe items on there were in Auction form & went for what people were willing to pay. And now I go on there, and about 90% of items are BIN's with CRAZY high prices!! What the heck happened??
|
03-25-2017, 03:07 PM | #2 |
I.O. SpecOps
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In a secret underground bunker.
Posts: 4,404
|
BINs are cheaper to list than auctions.
__________________
Dr. Venture: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery? http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...r1s-b-s-t.html |
03-25-2017, 03:17 PM | #3 |
Cobra Interrogator
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Undisclosed Military Installation in Kentucky
Posts: 1,466
|
And might be more attractive. I know I hate bidding on things and then having to wait a week before somebody grabs it at the last minute. I always prefer BIN to auction.
And I agree some of the prices are insane. I get that people think these are rare collectibles or something, but it is extremely rare that I would pay more than $10 or $15 for a Joe. (And certainly not $70-90, which I see on some Club exclusives. |
03-25-2017, 03:51 PM | #4 |
Hisstank.Com General
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 10,816
|
Look at completed sales and auctions almost always go for less money than the sold BINs or fixed price listings. When I list an auction, people often e-mail asking if I'll do a set price sale instead. People don't want to wait until a certain time on a certain day and then get in a bidding war where they might lose and get nothing to show for their time. So they ignore auctions and don't participate, often seeming to assume they'll pay more in an auction even if that on average is not the case.
Auctions in my mind are only appropriate for extremely rare items where a true value is hard to determine. Anything else, it's easy to see what the going price is and set your fixed price accordingly. As far as I can tell, eBay encourages people to do auctions and makes it easier to save on listing fees for auctions. I don't believe the final sales fees are any worse for auctions than they are for fixed price listings. EBay isn't encouraging fixed price listings, it's the customers that are encouraging it. This calculator shows the sales fee is $100 on a $1,000 sale whether you use auction or fixed price: eBay Fee Calculator Apparently listing fees are also identical for auction or fixed price. Note that fixed price is not the same as BIN...fixed price is a non-auction listing, while BIN is an option on an auction. The BIN on an auction must be set at a certain % higher than the auction starting price. Where fixed price starts getting you penalties is on listing upgrades. You get higher fees for listing upgrades if your starting price is over $150. So you will save on fees if you list an auction for $1 starting price and it ends for $500 than if you simply had a fixed price listing for $500. But blackrazor1 is definitely wrong. It is not "cheaper" to list "BINs" than auctions. His terminology is wrong to begin with...BINs are an option on auctions. Fixed priced listings are the ones that are different from auctions. And those are the same price as auctions to list or sell, but can cost more if you're doing special upgrades on your lisitng. Last edited by JediJones; 03-25-2017 at 04:35 PM.. |
03-25-2017, 05:27 PM | #5 |
Hisstank.Com General
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Vancouver, BC
Posts: 17,154
|
I like doing fixed prices and let people make offers.
__________________
Nighthawk's Feedback | HasLab figures FS Wants: female Hiss driver from HISS Haslab My Ebay auctions: kalwin_woo | eBay |
03-25-2017, 06:42 PM | #6 |
Red Two
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: 村八分
Posts: 1,025
|
Quote:
I've been away from the Joe world for a while now. But back when I was really into Army Building in the early to mid 2000's you could go on e-Bay, and at least 80% or more of the Joe items on there were in Auction form & went for what people were willing to pay. And now I go on there, and about 90% of items are BIN's with CRAZY high prices!! What the heck happened??
I, too, prefer bin but any none rare fig over $19 shipped is going to need serious consideration. |
03-25-2017, 07:18 PM | #7 |
Joe Greenshirt
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Denton, Texas
Posts: 5,399
|
This is my preference as well. I can get a good "bottom dollar" set for what I would accept for my item and it's much less hassle/risk. If you start a $1 auction you're taking a big risk.
With the Buy it Now/Best Offer option you can avoid that. I tend to list stuff and try to ignore it. When you least expect it you get an alert that it sold. There's no doubt there are crazy auctions out there. Some sites such as Rebelscum even post links to highlight their "ridiculous eBay item of the week" it's quite comical.
__________________
My Feedback: http://www.hisstank.com/forum/buy-se...-feedback.html My Buy/Sell/Trade List: http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...ml#post2192187 |
03-25-2017, 07:50 PM | #8 |
I.O. SpecOps
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: In a secret underground bunker.
Posts: 4,404
|
Quote:
Note that fixed price is not the same as BIN...fixed price is a non-auction listing, while BIN is an option on an auction. The BIN on an auction must be set at a certain % higher than the auction starting price.
Where fixed price starts getting you penalties is on listing upgrades. You get higher fees for listing upgrades if your starting price is over $150. So you will save on fees if you list an auction for $1 starting price and it ends for $500 than if you simply had a fixed price listing for $500. But blackrazor1 is definitely wrong. It is not "cheaper" to list "BINs" than auctions. His terminology is wrong to begin with...BINs are an option on auctions. Fixed priced listings are the ones that are different from auctions. And those are the same price as auctions to list or sell, but can cost more if you're doing special upgrades on your lisitng. In terms of terminology, BIN and fixed price seem to almost the same thing. While an auction can have the BIN option, all fixed priced listed are listed under BIN.
__________________
Dr. Venture: Why is it every time I need to get somewhere, we get waylaid by jackassery? http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...r1s-b-s-t.html |
03-25-2017, 08:07 PM | #9 |
o-ring or nothing
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: In the 1980's
Posts: 5,697
|
I've been finding great deals on ARAH stuff myself. I usually just check out whatever is ending soon, and see if there's anything that I want. I've picked up a FLAK, Whirlwind, and Watchetower for less than $10 each ($.99 for the FLAK!). And just last week got an immaculate Wolverine (no tow rope, naturally) with some misc stuff for less than $30. I had planned on buying up a couple others to complete one, then resticker it myself, but this one looks like it's fresh out of the box.
|
03-26-2017, 05:34 AM | #10 |
Cobra Lab Rat
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: California
Posts: 3,046
|
Well, it's kinda like this.
------------------------------------------------- Buy it now aka fixed pricing is great at preventing selling items for less than they are worth. You will never sell for a price you didn't accept before posting. They are not good if the value of the item is worth a lot more than the price you listed as you then didn't sell it for as high as you could have. Hence, people tend to list really high prices, because if you guessed wrong you still sell it for a higher price and if you have the price too high, you can try again. On lower priced items also, less costly to add options. Higher price items, obviously the options cost more etc. ---------------------------- On auctions, there's no limit to how high a listing can get, but it's a lot riskier to list an item because it could always sell for a lot lower than the value, which is why buyers like it but sellers don't. It's also cheaper even with options. It's guaranteed to sell in a chosen time frame you choose, something like "30 days" but the price might not be to your liking, that's the risk. Regardless, the benefit is that the item WILL be sold by the end of the time frame as long as someone saw it and bid. You can minimize the risk of a very low bid winning by putting a 'reserve price' on an auction item, but paying more for this option defeats the purpose of having an auction in the first place as now it's NOT guaranteed to sell in "30 days" if the price is not above your reserve price and you're actually doing a logic fail here. If the item has a chance to sell for way less than you want to sell it for, WHY ARE YOU AUCTIONING IT THEN right? You would have been better just guessing the price once and using Buy it now then right? --------------------- Conclusion: It's almost always better to list a higher Buy it Now price and work down from some outrageous price than to put up an auction with options. Auctions with options basically only works on big ticket or in demand items nowadays. |
|
|