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05-23-2015, 09:18 PM | #21 |
Joe Gramps aka Mr H
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My vote goes to making a Harrier for the Joe team. My heart really wants an Osprey...
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05-23-2015, 09:49 PM | #22 |
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Even though the Tiger Rat and YOJOE.COM | A-10 Thunderbolt are repainted Rattlers, they are a part of the Joe arsenal and perfectly capable CAS aircraft.
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05-23-2015, 10:59 PM | #23 |
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I'm pleasantly surprised at everyone's mindset about the Rattler being strictly a Cobra aircraft. IIRC it was mentioned in the Marvel run that Destro had stolen those plans from the US military and had it manufactured by MARS for Cobra. For all intended purposes the Thunderbolt may have been the original version that got put on the back burner after Cobra used the design first (in the comic anyway.)
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05-24-2015, 12:24 AM | #24 |
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I'm pleasantly surprised at everyone's mindset about the Rattler being strictly a Cobra aircraft. IIRC it was mentioned in the Marvel run that Destro had stolen those plans from the US military and had it manufactured by MARS for Cobra. For all intended purposes the Thunderbolt may have been the original version that got put on the back burner after Cobra used the design first (in the comic anyway.)
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05-24-2015, 01:43 AM | #25 |
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The Rattler (AKA Cobra Tanksmasher) is based on the A-10 Warthog, except with VTOL capabilities. It's an excellent ground support aircraft, still currently in use by the USAF until a suitable replacement is found.
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05-24-2015, 01:59 AM | #26 |
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i don't remember Destro stealng the Rattler blueprints. And i've read those issues recently in the IDW trades.
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05-24-2015, 02:06 AM | #27 |
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The Rattler is going to accelerate a whole lot faster and climb a lot faster because it has a much better thust/weight ratio.....but it couldn't reach that ratio with increased thrust alone. There had to be a significant lightening of the body to facilitate vertical take-off amd a compromized wing structure to allow them to pivot. The A-10 is tough, but I don't see how the Rattler possibly could be. The Rattler is a stupid airplane because they give it a world/class thrust/weight ratio and slapped it in a poorly layed out CAS machine. It's hampered by it's [obviously] subsonic aerodynamic design and needlessly complex (and therefor expensive) for what it does. The A-10 is a remarkable aircraft, otoh....
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05-24-2015, 02:20 AM | #28 |
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You are correct, I just looked at the TPB that has issue 22 regarding the Rattler's 1st appearance. I thought it was mentioned in a cartoon episode or maybe on the original toy box. Or maybe it was mentioned on here. My memory fails me, so if anyone knows please chime in as I continue to Google. Type, type, type...
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05-24-2015, 02:27 AM | #29 |
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But it really isn't though: it sort of looks like an A-10 but the engines are in the wrong place, there's a gunner's position, a third engine in a place blocking the gunner's rear, and the wings pivot. Furthermore the A-10 has only about one/third of it's combat weight in thrust wereas the Rattler can take off vertically.
The Rattler is going to accelerate a whole lot faster and climb a lot faster because it has a much better thust/weight ratio.....but it couldn't reach that ratio with increased thrust alone. There had to be a significant lightening of the body to facilitate vertical take-off and a compromised wing structure to allow them to pivot. The A-10 is tough, but I don't see how the Rattler possibly could be. The Rattler is a stupid airplane because they give it a world/class thrust/weight ratio and slapped it in a poorly laid out CAS machine. It's hampered by it's [obviously] subsonic aerodynamic design and needlessly complex (and therefore expensive) for what it does. The A-10 is a remarkable aircraft, otoh....
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05-24-2015, 03:25 AM | #30 |
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