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03-08-2015, 01:25 PM | #11 |
dreadnok
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yeah, I always just assumed that the vipers were just an updated uniform for the classic blue officers. Cobra got a little more money coming in, so they upgraded uniforms.
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03-08-2015, 04:34 PM | #12 |
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BTW: Cobra Officers were the equivalent of an O-4 Major. They were above and beyond any lowly Viper. |
03-08-2015, 05:16 PM | #13 |
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In the file-cards the Vipers were at the bottom of the Cobra hierarchy, so they were the equivalent of an E-1 Buck Private. The Cobras / Cobra Troopers were of the "specialist" equivalent, i.e. E-4. Everyone starts as a Viper and then you can transfer into other Viper units or become a Trooper... if I understand the file-cards correctly.
BTW: Cobra Officers were the equivalent of an O-4 Major. They were above and beyond any lowly Viper.
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03-08-2015, 07:25 PM | #14 |
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I actually don't care much for cobra troopers, but love the Vipers. the way I see it, when Cobra was first starting out they did not have the funds to give their troopers such fancy equipment, uniforms, armour etc. As the years went on and their pyramid schemes and dodgy real estate deals became more and more lucrative, they could afford to upgrade their foot soldiers with better gear, as well as train more specialty soldiers and invent more elaborate vehicles of war. In my Joe verse the blueshirts are completely phased out.
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03-08-2015, 08:40 PM | #15 |
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I love Vipers... Period!!! Always have & may possibly always will... Maybe? Besides they have one of the coolest assault rifles in the Joeverse.
I've always considered Vipers true Cobra infantry/assaulters. The standard old school Cobra Troopers were more in-house/installation security guards awaiting promotion to the standard Viper Corps or a specialized Viper job field. Besides I've NEVER liked that fact the original Cobra Trooper came with a Dragunov sniper rifle instead of an AK47 like the Cobra Officer did. Thank goodness for Marauder Gun Runners! Augment & Resupply!!!
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03-09-2015, 12:26 PM | #16 |
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Location: Northern Virginia
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I like both the Blueshirts and the Vipers, but I'll say that of the two original designs from the '80s, the Blueshirts clearly look very old fashioned today and are in need of updates, while the original Viper still looks totally cool. I tend to think of Vipers as dedicated assault troopers and Blueshirts more as standard light infantry, security forces and garrison troops.
What bothers me is that the weapons specialists all came in different colors. If HEAT, SAW, Frag, Flak Vipers etc had come in the regular dark blue with red highlights, they would all look much better displayed together, like they were actually on the same squad. |
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