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08-27-2014, 12:25 PM | #11 |
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Yeah I go Marine Expeditionary Unit as well.
Marine expeditionary unit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia About 2000 strong made up of several elements including Tanks, Harrier jets and helicopters based off a amphibious carrier. Within the unit there is what is considered the Maritime Special Purpose Force which is where you would put most of the named Joes. This force is even augmented by a SEAL team. Snipers. EOD team. Maritime Special Purpose Force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia . . I would have to agree with all the above! |
08-29-2014, 10:24 PM | #12 |
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So the Marine Expeditionary Unit is task organized. You have your typical MEU that goes on regular deployments but you can also have different organizations that are designed for any special purpose, humanitarian relief for example. A MEU is usually an infantry batallion with an Amtrac, engineer, artillery, LAV, and maybe armor detachments added on. They also get a composite air squadron with a mix of helos and maybe harriers. Finally, a combat service support group with all the support cats and dogs-heavy coms, support engineers, maintenance, supply, postal, disbursing, etc.
The joes would have all this stuff, and you even see it with the named characters. An infantry battalion is about 800 Marines in three rifle companies and a weapons company. The issue with the joes though, is that they don't appear to train and fight as a large organization. The infantry battalion uses these companies as manuever elements. The joes seem to largely go out in much smaller units, as is typical of special operations units. A Marine rifle platoon is 42 swinging dicks, a SEAL platoon, if I remember right, is 14. Marine Recon is similar, and when the Recon Marines are deployed, it could be in a squad or platoon sized element for direct action or a two or four man detachment serving as a recon element for another unit, or even just a patrol. I think the Joes would have some innocuos name, like Joint Operations Enviroment Team that doesn't really give any indication of the mission as opposed to a name like "elite assault units" or something like that. Hawk could be the commanding officer but he might also have a title like "director" or "chief". The subordinate units might be something "A company" or they might be names like "intelligence collections and processing" or "extremis operations". Did I overthink this a little too much? Did I |
08-29-2014, 10:37 PM | #13 |
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All that makes tons of sense but for me, Joe is maybe just slightly larger than a Company (100-200 soldiers). And that's made up entirely of code-named operatives. no green shirts. no delta. You can technically say those guys are limitless and have Joe be an entire corps in no time if you want to. And all their machines and paperwork is managed and supported by whichever branch of the armed services that would normally do so (i.e. The Flagg is manned by Navy personnel) with the brunt of their operations covered under the Army.
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08-29-2014, 10:48 PM | #14 |
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Well, there are certain presuppositions that go into this answer...
1. Which branch are they? In the comics, it seemed pretty clear that they fell under the Army - they were HQ'd on an Army base, their commander was Army, and most of the Joes are Army. If they're an Army unit (with Joes from other branches being detailed to an Army unit - like Gung-Ho and Wet Suit), then they would be in Special Operations. Army Special Operations units of this size would probably be considered a "Group" like the 5th Special Forces Group, or 4th Psychological Operations Group. This is mainly because the Joes aren't that big of a unit... multiple groups are organized into a Regiment. The 75th Ranger Regiment is broken into Battalions, but that's because of their traditions as an Infantry Regiment. However, since the Joes are portrayed as an equivalent to Delta Force and the SAS, Delta may be the best comparison... They are a Special Operations Counter Terrorism unit... Delta used to go by "SFOD-D" Special Forces Operations Detachment Delta. So "Detachment" would be another name you could use. So, because of it's Army roots, I would go with "Group" or "Detachment". even Delta has gone to the term "Group"... They now go by "Combat Applications Group" or C.A.G.
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08-30-2014, 02:11 AM | #15 |
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The Joes were given a more 'believeable' name in issue #1 of the Marvel comic. Special Counter-Terrorist Unit Delta
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08-30-2014, 10:35 AM | #16 |
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Since then they have grown, in the DDP days there were 236 on the cover with all the Joes. That was back in 2007. You would have to add in 7 years of new characters since then. Trakker, Helix, Sgt. Stone, Air Raid, Bench Press, Speed Metal, Dial Tone, SandStorm, Kickstart, Night Fox, Ice Storm, Hashtag, etc. Still less than three hundred core members, but when you attach the support Joes, Greenshirts, and Steel Brigade, the numbers increase substantially.
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08-31-2014, 08:46 PM | #17 |
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Well, there are certain presuppositions that go into this answer...
1. Which branch are they? In the comics, it seemed pretty clear that they fell under the Army - they were HQ'd on an Army base, their commander was Army, and most of the Joes are Army. If they're an Army unit (with Joes from other branches being detailed to an Army unit - like Gung-Ho and Wet Suit), then they would be in Special Operations. Army Special Operations units of this size would probably be considered a "Group" like the 5th Special Forces Group, or 4th Psychological Operations Group. This is mainly because the Joes aren't that big of a unit... multiple groups are organized into a Regiment. The 75th Ranger Regiment is broken into Battalions, but that's because of their traditions as an Infantry Regiment. However, since the Joes are portrayed as an equivalent to Delta Force and the SAS, Delta may be the best comparison... They are a Special Operations Counter Terrorism unit... Delta used to go by "SFOD-D" Special Forces Operations Detachment Delta. So "Detachment" would be another name you could use. So, because of it's Army roots, I would go with "Group" or "Detachment". even Delta has gone to the term "Group"... They now go by "Combat Applications Group" or C.A.G. I'd go with a 'joint' command but primarily with Army oversite & liaisons/subject matter experts from all the other branches of the DoD. That's the way it's billed in the comics. Of course the comics sensationalizes things; that's why you have a General on the front lines with a rifle. This doesn't happen in real-life. The upper echelon of G.I. JOE's command staff would be it's senior ranking officers & enlisted. i.e. Hawk, Duke, Flint, Keel-Haul, Colonel Courage, Stalker, Beachhead, Wild-Bill & a host of others. Along with liaisons from all the branches; unified to make decisions on what targets are the biggest threats, leaving it to mission planners & operators to execute the mission. I've always saw G.I. JOE as a single compiled unit structured after Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC). The command staff as listed above with 1st SFOD-D (C.A.G.), DEVGRU (SEAL Team VI), 75th Ranger Regiment, 24th Special Tactics Squadron, 160th SOAR would be the primary units under the command umbrella with any other DoD/federal organization at their disposal.
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