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04-13-2014, 09:18 AM | #1 |
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So here we sit, on the 50th anniversary weekend of GI Joe with yet this announcement..................
'Transformers: Age of Extinction' will set up a new trilogy | Inside Movies | EW.com That's right, the TFs are getting TWO more movies. No TF hate here (my kids love them but don't care for Joes ironically) , just an old school Joe fan who's disappointed like a lot of the rest of you that GI Joe does not get the same attention and draw now that the TFs do. Not to mention the disrespect shown here for the 50th................. Six movies now, multiple versions of the cartoons, and still immensely popular in even today's culture (when was the last time you saw a car tooling around with a Joe or Cobra emblem on it vs. some of the ones / tuners you see with Autobot or Decpticon emblems on them?). What do we have to show? Two movies, a couple of cartoon series of very limited runs and virtually no new or current product for a line that is as traditional as Barbie, Chevrolet, baseball and apple pie to American heritage since the 60's. Sure we had a hell of a long run of a comic series, but we still don't get near the respect the line deserves. Sorry, rant mode off, I'm just so disapointed to see what this line has become compared to some of the other brands out there that are considered "classics" such as SW, Batman, and worst of all from the SAME manufacture TFs. Hasbro should be ashamed of themselves. >:(
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04-13-2014, 09:25 AM | #2 |
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04-13-2014, 09:28 AM | #3 |
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It is what it is. A property based on the military and warfare is always going to be heavily subject to societies' current feelings on both.
Those feelings are not dissimilar to what they were in the late '60s. What did they do with Joe then? They evolved into Adventure Team. Hasbro won't do that, though. Whether through willful ignorance, research saying it would do even worse than military G.I. Joe, blind slavery to the ARAH mythos, or a combo of the above, I can't say. |
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04-13-2014, 09:46 AM | #4 |
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I don't think movies translate to toy sales at any rate......not as effectively as..cartoons.
I have several ideas personally that are a mix of military and adventure team bumping around in my head that could be 'kid friendly'....I think the Hub limitations affect it some, but I'd rather not see GI Joe as movies . I'd rather see it as a toon that endears itself to kids.....and at that point maybe try mixing it with skylanders/Infinity type gaming . I'm not the expert, but I'm sure there is something that could work, but i don't know that it needs to involve movies which will make the entire thing more confusing for casual consumer families...
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04-13-2014, 09:50 AM | #5 |
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So here we sit, on the 50th anniversary weekend of GI Joe with yet this announcement..................
'Transformers: Age of Extinction' will set up a new trilogy | Inside Movies | EW.com That's right, the TFs are getting TWO more movies. No TF hate here (my kids love them but don't care for Joes ironically) , just an old school Joe fan who's disappointed like a lot of the rest of you that GI Joe does not get the same attention and draw now that the TFs do. Not to mention the disrespect shown here for the 50th................. Six movies now, multiple versions of the cartoons, and still immensely popular in even today's culture (when was the last time you saw a car tooling around with a Joe or Cobra emblem on it vs. some of the ones / tuners you see with Autobot or Decpticon emblems on them?). What do we have to show? Two movies, a couple of cartoon series of very limited runs and virtually no new or current product for a line that is as traditional as Barbie, Chevrolet, baseball and apple pie to American heritage since the 60's. Sure we had a hell of a long run of a comic series, but we still don't get near the respect the line deserves. Sorry, rant mode off, I'm just so disapointed to see what this line has become compared to some of the other brands out there that are considered "classics" such as SW, Batman, and worst of all from the SAME manufacture TFs. Hasbro should be ashamed of themselves. >:( It really surprises me how robots get more than soldiers (the gimmick is bullshit). The best thing to do is to take action and boycott the film. The less money they get (even though basturds out there will still pay for the film) the less they'll produce. Easy as that. |
04-13-2014, 09:54 AM | #6 |
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You've also got to factor in that now you probably have the largest sub-culture ever of "geek" / comic / toy type people in popularty / current trends than ever before. I'm baffled alone by that not leading into our thing being bigger than it is now when you figure in all the comic character movies and whatnot today that we never had years before? Again, you'd think NOW that the Joe vs Cobra thing would be bigger than at any time since they first hit the scene?
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04-13-2014, 09:54 AM | #7 |
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hasbro doesn't care anymore.
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04-13-2014, 09:58 AM | #8 |
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04-13-2014, 10:10 AM | #9 |
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i think its hasbro and marketing. gi joe in the 80s was huge the cartoon was successful it had money behind it now it doesnt. transformers maybe a gimmick but it's a damn successful one. even the bad tf cartoons like energon and cybertron still worked since they aired on channels everyone could get into. gi joe didn't...and it doesn't help the movies arent' that great in comparison either.
i just dont like the obvious favoritism. i love transformers im not hating either but alot of my childhood revolved around joes and i dont want it to become an expensive online club only think like DC universe and He Man have become. i want to be able to afford gi joes again. i just feel that hasbro really needs to give gi joe half the attention transformers gets with at least half the effort in order to help it. i like the renegades show and if that hit WB or cartoon network maybe a revival couldve had a chance.
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04-13-2014, 10:15 AM | #10 |
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GI joe has been through this before. The difference is, Hasbro DID care at that time, which is why we had GI Joe up until last year. It's funny because a lot of people recognize GI Joe. At my local postal annex, there's a younger woman, probably a good ten years younger than me, who wears a "Knowing is Half The Battle"
sweatshirt. Whenever I go in and she's wearing it, we talk about it. But she doesn't collect or actively participate in GI Joe. She wears the short because she watched the cartoon as a kid with her brother. Hasbro just hasn't done a great job of keeping the brand Alice. And Konigstiger is right --- the military aspect at this point in time seems to be working against it. I like transformers enough. The movies have been entertaining. But I never liked playing with transformers. Took too long to transform them. It is disappointing that they're doing so well and Joe isn't. But good for them.
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