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04-10-2014, 04:31 AM | #1 |
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In the Snake Eyes Declassified comics we discovered that for a while post-Vietnam and pre-GI Joe/Cobra the two were running around playing vigilante. It's been a while since I read the series, but I believe CC knew SE was the last surviving member of his family, who he had believed responsible for his brother's drunk driving death, along with the whole system of government that placed him in the position of being killed. Anyway, after the two parted ways -SE eventually joining GI Joe and CC forming and leading Cobra - was it ever established that the two knew that they had known each other?
SE was trained by the Arashikage to recognize a person by listening to their heart and breathing patterns - but this was after his run with CC. And after joining the Joe team, his file name was classified - was this because CC knew his real name? The two eventually come face to face towards the end of the original Marvel series, but CC is masked and SE's face is disfigured. But still, they may have known. Just wondering if this was ever explained in the IDW continuation of ARAH.
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04-10-2014, 08:06 AM | #2 |
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To my knowledge, this was never addressed in the marvel series. I think the DDP series came after Marvel anyway, and I think it's a story that DDP invented. It's an interesting twist. I'm not sure I'm fully on board with it, but I don't hate it either.
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04-10-2014, 08:33 AM | #3 |
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yeah, the snake eyes declassified series is written by brandon jerwa, the snake eyes/cobra commander connection was created in those comics and was never in marvel, so IDW really has no reason to carry that over to thier comics
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04-10-2014, 08:59 AM | #4 |
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While the fact that they were "buddies" for a while was a retcon by DDP, the fact that Cobra Commander knew he was the last survivor of the family his brother killed in the drunk driving accident was revealed in the original Marvel Run. Towards the end, but I'm pretty sure I remember it being in there.
As I said though, at the time there was NO indication they had actually known each other previously. I actually kinda liked that twist in the Snake-Eyes: Declassified series. Oh, I didn't care for further centering the Joe-verse around Snake-eyes, but it actually gave a bit more depth to Cobra Commander and Snake-Eyes alike. Plus it allowed us to envision a what-if style universe where Snake-Eyes was Cobra Commander's right-hand man (albeit probably not a ninja). |
04-10-2014, 10:08 AM | #5 |
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if I recall right, in the marvel series,the family of snake eyes, including his kid sister, was killed while they were on the way to the bus depot to get him after he had left the war. it was later revealed that the drunk driver who killed his family was cobra commander. i dont know if that helps or not.
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04-10-2014, 10:40 AM | #6 |
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Not quite. It was Cobra Commander's brother that was the drunk that killed Snake Eyes' family, and he too died. So Cobra Commander took out his grief on the only surviving member of the family... Snake Eyes.
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04-10-2014, 11:06 AM | #7 |
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He became stressed, abused alcohol after the war and because (I think) he was accused of burning down CC's war hospital. Again, I've heard rumors about that, I'm not sure. |
04-10-2014, 12:17 PM | #8 |
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I'd have to look to be sure but CC's brother was a Vietnam vet who did several tours to keep his brother from getting drafted. After the war he was running a home to help vets that burned down and the court said he did it for the insurance money. After this CC's brother went into a spiral of alcoholism and depression, lost his shirt and caused the accident that killed Snake Eyes' family. This was covered in the Marvel ARAH series.
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04-10-2014, 12:30 PM | #9 |
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I think Cobra Commander finally revealed everything to Snake Eyes in Marvel ARAH #108. As mentioned, the idea that they knew each other before the car crash was solely a DDP retcon and I don't believe Larry Hama considers that canon, so I don't.
If you're interested, I covered it in song form on the following catchy tracks (free to download) A Letter From Snake Eyes parts 1, 2 & 3 Venomous Ideology https://propsdept.bandcamp.com/
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04-10-2014, 03:48 PM | #10 |
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Burg!!!! I knew the story was extremely familiar! While I understand the centering around SE gets tiresome, but I think it's a shock (for me at least) that so much pain centers the Joe-verse.
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