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04-06-2014, 03:19 AM | #1 |
Iron Grenadier
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I like Mercer's concept and design but I'm starting to think he would be the worst Joe on the team. Mercer's background indicates that he was a Viper. Not an elite crimson guard or specialist like a Alley Viper. Mercer was just a plain old viper.
Vipers are described at being at the bottom of the pyramid. They are the Joe universe's Storm Troopers. They are bad shots and sole purpose is to die easily making the big named Joes look cool as they take on scores of them. Even a pacifist like Life Line should be able to beat a Viper in a fight. Only Cobras that are equal to Joes are the ones who have names like Destro, Major Bludd, etc. Storm Shadow can easily be a Joe (as he was sometimes is) because he's got a name and an already and expert in his field. Mercer was a lowly Viper. Is Sgt. Slaughter really that good of a trainer? |
04-06-2014, 07:52 AM | #2 |
Cobra Soldier
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I always imagined Mercer being held down by Cobra to the point where he left. He was a great Viper worthy of much more, but Cobra Commander had it in for him so he never got a chance.
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04-06-2014, 09:18 AM | #3 |
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I kinda agree with Master chief. I see him as being a great soldier who cannot stand that he was at the bottom of the barrel and forced to serve with the incompetent. Also did not like the command structure and grew tired and fed up with everything.
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04-06-2014, 10:45 AM | #4 |
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Also, you think in the joeverse that Cobra had a fair pecking order? Where the commander encouraged backstabbing, cheating, and subterfuge to gain a higher place in the ranks? Mercer probably got overlooked by a lesser soldier who was more underhanded. Mercer wanted to rise in the ranks the proper way, or at least in a UFC-style way, maybe.
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04-06-2014, 10:47 AM | #5 |
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I always understood the Vipers to be more like an equivalent to the marines, where the Cobra Troopers were more of your entry level grunt.
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04-06-2014, 10:48 AM | #6 |
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Sgt. Slaughter was considered a "Special Drill Instructor" for the Joe Team.....so yeah...he was that good. If you're the guy that "trains the best" I would consider the Marauders "elite" in that form of thinking. Plus....Hawk even brought Slaughter in to "Shape up" the Joes in "Arise, Serpentor, Arise"
Yeah, I don't get why people always think the Vipers are just some schulbs off the street......I mean I'm sure they were trained at some level. Maybe not "Viper Specialty" level....I mean Marines are grunts too.....but I doubt anyone would consider a Marine to be a terrible soldier. |
04-06-2014, 10:58 AM | #7 |
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04-06-2014, 11:10 AM | #8 |
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I agree with this. I think he would've been an exceptional viper, but perhaps because of favoritism in Cobra, he was held back, or perhaps he had some sort of moral epiphany, and decided to fight for freedom wherever there's trouble.
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04-06-2014, 11:42 AM | #9 |
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Dude escaped from Cobra Island in a hot-wired hydrofoil and evaded Cobra forces to get to the US. that's pretty shit-hot.
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04-06-2014, 12:03 PM | #10 |
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the viper filecards state that they are entry level. everyone starts as a viper, at the bottom.
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