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03-25-2009, 11:28 PM | #11 |
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Dude that sucks so bad! I feel for ya! I just got a ticket last week...my first one in a couple years and I was so pissed!
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03-25-2009, 11:33 PM | #12 |
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LOL you are so right, because I left out of the original story that I still went into a WM and TRU after I left Target, that were in the same area even though I didn't need anything I just wanted to see what Joe stuff they had. I need help Thats one of the only positives of the ticket I mentioned a state cop I knew, so when he came back he still gave me the fine, but said he wrote me 6110-A violation that would not give me points since I knew another state cop. I would have got 3 points on my license. HA HA! I guess he was trying to get even with us Steelers fans Last edited by SNAKE EYES; 03-25-2009 at 11:36 PM.. |
03-25-2009, 11:34 PM | #13 |
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^^ and spend another $110 in gas to keep going back and forth for these continuances.. and then realize that the radar certificate is BS, won't hold up since they will find you guilty (most always side with the officer), and then end up paying more $$ in the long run.
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03-25-2009, 11:34 PM | #14 |
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A.) Tell the DA representative that you want to see the office in court. If he is not there, and he probably won't be there, tell the judge that you want the ticket thrown out since the officer is not there to contest it.
B.) Insist that the officer's police equipment may have been tracking another vehicle instead of yours. For all the officer knows, he was tracking another car since there were other vehicles on the road with you. C.) Insist that the officer's equipment may not have been properly calibrated since he is not there to show his calibration certificate or proof that the equipment is being maintained properly. These are not good defenses. Continuances just prolong your eventual payment. A. Cops show up. A traffic cop especially. May even be his his day off so he gets overtime pay for nothing (court is easy). B. Radar is easy. Unless you were 5 feet behind a huge truck then this defense sucks too. C. Cops don't calibrate their own radars. They test them before they start running radar and usually after. Calibration of the radar being off is unlikely. If your guilty...then pay it and move on. Even better yet take an online Defensive Driving Course (at your own pace whenever you choose). Oh, and radars in commercial vehicles are illegal in many states so be careful. |
03-25-2009, 11:38 PM | #15 |
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Sounds like it would work
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03-25-2009, 11:42 PM | #16 |
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These are not good defenses. Continuances just prolong your eventual payment. A. Cops show up. A traffic cop especially. May even be his his day off so he gets overtime pay for nothing (court is easy). B. Radar is easy. Unless you were 5 feet behind a huge truck then this defense sucks too. C. Cops don't calibrate their own radars. They test them before they start running radar and usually after. Calibration of the radar being off is unlikely. If your guilty...then pay it and move on. Even better yet take an online Defensive Driving Course (at your own pace whenever you choose). Where did you go to law school? I use the continuance plan to merely start my defense, and had 2/2 tickets thrown out over the span of 3 years. Worked like a charm BOTH TIMES. Regarding the officer tracking other vehicles instead of Snake Eyes, how does the officer know that he was tracking Snake Eyes and not some other vehicle? Were you there? As for the radar tracking the wrong vehicle, it happens all the time because the police radar device is like an area fire weapon system. IOW, it generally scans the area rather than directly focusing on one vehicle at a time. It's not like a "direct-fire weapon system" like a laser device. Try to imagine that you are going to shoot a Cobra trooper at 300 yards away. For a "one shot, one kill" scenario, are you going to use a mortar or a sniper rifle to nail him? Same logic applies to tracking an individual on the road. You have no way of knowing what vehicle you are tracking with radar as compared to laser. This is ESPECIALLY true is Snake Eyes was on the road with several other vehicles. Never, ever give money to the kangaroo court system because the tools that they are using to take people's money are hardly infallible. It is the responsibility of the state to prove a person guilty beyond all reasonable doubt. If the agent of the state doesn't happen to show up, then the state has ZERO right to push any type of penalty on the individual American. As for police radar, it's a machine like anything else and hardly infallible. Who puts total trust and confidence in a machine designed to line the empty coffers of a bankrupt state/city/municipality? From the article cited below: "According to the operations manuals that come with police radar, to ensure accuracy every radar unit is supposed to be calibrated with tuning forks before each and every working shift and also before and after being used to detect each speeding violation. The forks used to tune are also sensitive creatures: If not kept in a box protecting them from moisture and jostling, they become inaccurate." Is requesting calibration records on the radar gun worth the effort? Last edited by Bravestarr; 03-25-2009 at 11:52 PM.. |
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03-25-2009, 11:52 PM | #17 |
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I went to law school at the University of Missouri. I was also a prosecutor for 5 years and a defense attorney for the last 3. I can tell you that ShockVal is exactly right in his statement.
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03-25-2009, 11:52 PM | #18 |
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3.) GO to the court 1 week before the trial date, and motion for a continuance. A continuance is granted to people who request it in person at the court house, and as long as you have a legitimate reason to get it, you will probably get it. Tell them that you have to work or something important. Tell them that you want a continuance on the trial, and that you want the court date pushed back. B.) Insist that the officer's police equipment may have been tracking another vehicle instead of yours. For all the officer knows, he was tracking another car since there were other vehicles on the road with you. I was the only vehicle going past him at the time the road is toll 60 in PA and is not a high traffic toll road. Thanks for the other advice though. Quote:
This is the reason I probably won't go, since most cops do show up because I have gone a couple times over the years for various traffic violations and the cop always shows up and the money spent on gas would end up costing more than the ticket. Last edited by SNAKE EYES; 03-26-2009 at 02:42 AM.. |
03-25-2009, 11:54 PM | #19 |
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03-25-2009, 11:54 PM | #20 |
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This just sucks.
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