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01-08-2008, 12:50 PM | #11 |
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G.I. Eddie, I'll hook you up on the comics so you can get a better understanding of Cobra Commander...
One thing not mentioned was the crash that killed Snake Eyes' family was caused by Cobra Commander's brother. CC blamed the last member of that family for his brother's death. He grew angry and seethed with revenge. He paid Zartan to infiltrate the Ninja compound where Storm Shadow was helping Snake Eyes move on with his life. But instead of Snake Eyes getting killed, the Hard Master died. A lot of CCs origins were from Billy's brainwave scan after the attempted assasination (issue 33,) in issue 38, a lot of CCs hatrid for the government is revealed as are the origins of Cobra itself.
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01-08-2008, 01:14 PM | #12 |
JOES BEFORE HOES
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I've really been having fun catching up on the comics...the ones that came with the comic 2 packs have been pretty enlightening as far as some of the characters you guys frequently talk about goes that I had no idea who they were (Dr.Venom, Kwinn#14)...also, it's nice (this is gonna sound morbid) to see people actually die...and of the few comics I've read so far, they have given me WAY more back-story than the whole G.I.Joe cartoon series ever did...and on that point, over the Christmas break I watched all my G.I.Joe DVD's (minus the unreleased 2nd season part 2)...so I know from very recent knowledge that the history is lacking in the toon...
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01-08-2008, 01:53 PM | #13 |
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Dan's death devastated Cobra Commander. He became obsessed with making someone pay for Dan's death. He turned to vigilantism, punishing criminals, but being sure to take any money they gains by illicit means. The Commander then sought out Snake-Eyes, who had been angry and despondent since his family's death and spent most of his time drinking and getting into fights. He eventually convinced Snake-Eyes to join him in a mission traveling the country meting out vigilante justice, but he never revealed his true identity or his connection to the car accident. As he seemed to become more interested in keeping criminals' money and using it to buy the loyalty of others, Snake-Eyes grew uncertain about what they were doing and worried about his new friend's growing instability. One night, the pair broke into the home of Judge Mitchell Tate, for reasons unknown to Snake-Eyes. The Commander then revealed that Tate had been the judge who ruined his brother's life, and that his brother had been driving the car that killed his family. He then handed Snake-Eyes a gun and told him to kill the judge. Snake-Eyes refused and turned the gun on the Commander only to learn it was unloaded. He told Snake-Eyes he was afraid he'd be too weak to pull the trigger, then simply killed the judge himself. Snake-Eyes ran off, hoping to never see his "friend" again.
The future Commander decided if Snake-Eyes would not be part of the solution, he was part of the problem. As his business failed, he began dreaming of exacting revenge upon Snake-Eyes. He tracked Snake-Eyes down in Japan, where he was living with Storm Shadow's family and clan of ninjas. Cobra Commander took out loans and used up his family's savings to hire the mercenary known as Firefly to kill Snake-Eyes, due to the mercenary's infamy and knowledge of the ancient arts. Firefly infiltrated the ninja clan, but discovered that he was no match for Snake-Eyes.
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01-08-2008, 01:59 PM | #14 |
JOES BEFORE HOES
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this is all great stuff...it's like quicksand, i'm stuck and i keep getting deeper and deeper into it
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01-08-2008, 09:05 PM | #15 |
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Originally Posted by artiepants
huh, i knew the beginning and end of the story, but i never read the parts with CC and SE being vigilantes or Firefly making a first attempt and being involved with the whole Arishikage/Zartan/CC back story.
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01-08-2008, 09:17 PM | #16 |
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Zartan tried to backout of killing Snake Eyes, cuz he had found a "home" within the Arashikage Clan, but Cobra Commander blackmailed Zartan into doing it, or else he was gonna reveal Zartans true intentions. Those events got Zartan on his path to who he is today.
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01-12-2008, 06:48 AM | #17 |
COMMANDO
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Originally Posted by Shogi
Toon: Scientist for Cobra-La who got mutated in a lab accident
US Comic: Used Car salesman who believed the government ruined his life UK Comic: Baron Ironblood, leader of the Red Shadows decided to kill all of his loyal followers and start fresh with a snake themed terrorist organization called Cobra. He then started calling himself Cobra Commander As for how evil, Baron Ironblood and his right hand man, The Black Major, trained all the Red Shadows to fight to the death, even if it meant their death. In fact, many never survived the training exercises |
01-12-2008, 09:54 AM | #18 |
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So what issues have this whole Snake-Eyes/Cobra Commander story? Or is it just little snippetts from many different issues?
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01-12-2008, 11:14 AM | #19 |
Cobra Viper
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It's the latter, I think--this whole storyline was 'huge.' Baroness and Destro are wrapped up in it, too--IIRC, Snake Eyes showed up when Baroness's brother got killed, and she thought he did it, and Destro and his father did some legal manipulation to get Snakes cleared, or...something.
I thought the "used car salesman" origin was a laugh too, until I realized it wasn't as blatant as "I suck at selling cars, I think I'll take over the world instead!" No, it was after a series of Really Bad Events. Lost job, brother gets killed off, so he starts doing a bunch of pyramid schemes and stuff to get loyal idiot followers. And he 'does,' and that's the start of Cobra. I mean, you saw Fight Club, right? You saw how this stuff starts. I like to think it's not until he gets financial backing from Destro that he could even think about performing a real terrorist move, though. |
02-04-2008, 05:24 PM | #20 |
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I think Cobra La's origin of CC is better than a used car... because at least the whole hissing sound and covered face makes sense and adds something to the whole character of CC, but a used car sales dude, come on that's pretty lame, and un-creative. So basically CC is a bad saleman with a lisp. OHHHHH scary.. It's just my opinion and I know I will be nailed for liking Cobra La aspect. But when I watch the Early stuff MASS Device, CC is surrounded in a cool kind of stuff, but when I think that its just a used car lacky under that mask it looses some of the magic. I guess I am just a 32 year dork stuck in make believe of yester years magical youth.
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