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01-07-2013, 01:27 PM | #11 |
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I'm not looking for their entire plan for 2013, but a little info is nice. That's what I liked about the Q&A sessions. Sure there was a lot of skirting the questions, but you'd get a little gem here and there.
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01-07-2013, 01:41 PM | #12 |
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The fact is Hasbro just sucks! They shouldn't show us what we could of had,Its like a slap in the face. Like some of the Retaliation figures lacking good articulation. Hasbro needs to think who is really buying gi joes. Ive seen more older people in the aisle than kid buying gi joes.
What's wrong with seeing what could have been? Does it suck that it's not coming out? Sure. But nothing wrong with seeing where the designers wanted to go, what they were thinking. Remember, it's not just the designers making decisions. So much more goes into it. As for who is buying Joes. Yes, the adult collector segment is the driving force CURRENTLY. But what about 2 years, 5 years? The adult collector community is stagnant. It doesn't grow and eventually it will shrink when people stop buying toys. Do you really see yourself buying Joes 10 years from now when in your 40s? In your 50s? Really see yourself going to Joecon in your 60s? For G.I. Joe to continue, the new audience NEEDS to be found, and that is what Hasbro is concentrating on and it is what they should be concentrating on. |
01-07-2013, 01:56 PM | #13 |
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Bottom line --- these are toys.
I've learned not to loose sleep over what Hasbro does or doesn't do. The line will continue or it won't. I'll enjoy what I have. My kids are into Skylanders now, so maybe that is their generation's GI Joe. I don't think GI Joe is dead, and as long as it's around I'll buy it, but I certainly think it is last it's prime and Hasbro has to cater to where their lunch comes from.
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01-07-2013, 01:59 PM | #14 |
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The fact that all of the repaints are now finally showing up on eBay is a good indication that there's a factory somewhere in China making these things.
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01-07-2013, 02:02 PM | #15 |
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As for the DG Joes...
Did anyone stop to think they didn't say anything because they weren't sure? They said at Joecon they wanted to see if could get the distribution fixed, so that is probably what they are doing. They won't say anything until know exactly what they are doing because if they did, and it turned out to be wrong, the fans around here would rip them a new one. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. |
01-07-2013, 02:06 PM | #16 |
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Here's a post about a cancelled line from their Star Wars dept:
Rebelscum.com: Droid Factory Cancelled
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01-07-2013, 02:06 PM | #17 |
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Something the founder of McDonalds once said, "Take care of the customer and the business will take care of itself."
This is something Hasbro has yet to learn for themselves. Well perhaps their slipping market share and earnings will help convince them to rethink their obstinate position on things. Perhaps then they will open up 'lines of communication' and be receptive to what adult customers desire out of the line instead of what their market researchers and child interaction specialists have 'come up with'. Everyone needs to take the time to watch the informative featurette on the DiC vol 2 DVD pack. They have their Joe design team leaders and they explain how the DiC series was representative of the 'wild' and 'crazy' (they used these terms in the video) colors that were indicative of the late 80s. These design people actually stand by their design choices with their naive optimism. I submit to you this misplaced optimism is what drove the line into the ground and these same dunderheads are the department heads now. They explained who their market researchers and child psychologists would set kids down in the hasbro offices and have the kids play with whatever the designers pulled out of their magic fluorescent colored toilet. What the kids gravitated towards is what Hasbro ran with. That really worked out well. Anyway I want to point out when the original 13 were produced,Hasbro didn't do that. They wanted to come up with a military themed toyline which was based off of a few veteran Hasbro designers ideas. Play testing with kids came much later thereby corrupting the line. I think Hasbro needs to be setting some adult collectors down to play with their things and give them some ideas to run with that are ore adult and forthright. However, I get the idea the big brains at Hasbro don't want to do that. Not because make playtime fantasy for kids is their thing, but because the adult designers at Hasbro don't want other outside adults to tell them what to do. That is why I mention taking care of the customer and the business will take care of itself. Hasbro is not taking care of all of its customers. Bottom line. GI Joe was nearly ten years old by the time the DIC show came out. In toy years that's an eternity. In the early 80s toy makes were thrilled if they got 3 years out of a line. And you're obviously looking at the 90s with rose colored glasses. EVERYTHING WAS NEON! And the hottest property on the shelves at the time. Wacky, ninja, neon, silly turtles. The line was already dying, was doing so since 87. The neon, the added play features etc brought the line back to profitability. These are facts.
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01-07-2013, 02:09 PM | #18 |
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We complain before we buy them, then presuming we can even be bothered buying them in the first place we complain afterwards. Maybe hasbro just can't be bothered trying to reason with the eccentricities of Joe fans
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01-07-2013, 02:12 PM | #19 |
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1) I got an invite to the Hasbro Fan Media day as I'm sure all the other Joe website admins received as well. At the conventions the entire Hasbro team from Daryl DePriest to the designers make themselves available for pretty much 4 days straight. You don't see that with a lot of the other toy companies. When the news broke that Paramount was delaying the movie, I guess they could have made an announcement, but they saved all that info for the con that was coming up.
2) Part of the exclusivity contract for something like the dollar stores figures, is that they specifically can't discuss details. They create and produce them, but distribution is entirely up to the buyer. You'd be surprised how extensive those contracts can be and exactly what they cover. Most of the Hasbro Joe team aren't even aware when regular retail items are supposed to hit stores much less exclusives. So many people are involved with every stage of the process that the only thing I'm sure everyone knows about at the same time is when product is cancelled. |
01-07-2013, 02:13 PM | #20 |
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I'm 48 and buy Joes n Star Wars all the time, Toy shows 3 times a year, I'd continue indefinitely as long as they make new and detailed toys, I can't afford Joe cons but I'd definitely go if they would come to this side of the world once in a few years, all the fuss on this site tells me most guys here will be into Joe for as long as he exists, I will have grand kids soon, I have grand nephews I give joes to now, it's in my DNA, former Military men never get over who you are n Joes remind me of wen I was young and brave, I make customers of things I wish I could have or of who I couldov been, I sure hope they figure it out, I would hate to see it go by way of the Internet like evrything else.
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