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10-24-2012, 01:35 PM | #11 |
Crimson Guard
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Hasbro always seems to be extremely slow to adapt and change. Look at Star Wars and Transformers, they've been pushing the same characters for what, a decade now ? How many more Stormtrooper/Clonetrooper repaints can they make ? There was a time when those army builders sold like crazy, you couldn't find a single on in the wild unless you got there when they took them out of the box. Now pegs are full of them, Vader, Bumblebee...you name it, they're warming the pegs. Hell look at those Star Wars multi packs that came out a few months ago. I think they were 4 or 5 packs and the figures were from about 10 ago or further back.
They might not track which characters sell, but they need to because they are loseing money over it now. It's looking like 1993/1994 again. And we all know how badly they screwed over the GIJoe line. Between cutting short the 30th and moving the movie to next March we've gotten a year with out GIJoe in stores. Who does that and expects the line to survive and grow ? The worst part is all those 30th figs they showed off, those would of sold better than the 25th ever did. But Hasbro seems to not want money these days. |
10-24-2012, 01:53 PM | #12 |
Hazard Viper
Join Date: May 2010
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Toy prices UP allowance prices DOWN! I cant say this enough...The Toy/Action figure market cannot survive off of grown men ordering crap off the internet. It simply cannot. Does this mean we wont see any new Joes? HECK NO!!! They will be internet exclusives marked collectables form Hasbros collectables division ;) As for the action figures out there I still haven't figured out what a bey blade is? I am completly lost when I look at Transformers Movie/cartoon/some other realm...Marvel Movie/comics/something entirely different? 9000 different Iron mans spidermans etc. and dont get me started on Star Wars...yet NO GIJOE?!?
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10-24-2012, 01:56 PM | #13 |
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Hasbro always seems to be extremely slow to adapt and change. Look at Star Wars and Transformers, they've been pushing the same characters for what, a decade now ? How many more Stormtrooper/Clonetrooper repaints can they make ? There was a time when those army builders sold like crazy, you couldn't find a single on in the wild unless you got there when they took them out of the box. Now pegs are full of them, Vader, Bumblebee...you name it, they're warming the pegs. Hell look at those Star Wars multi packs that came out a few months ago. I think they were 4 or 5 packs and the figures were from about 10 ago or further back.
They might not track which characters sell, but they need to because they are loseing money over it now. It's looking like 1993/1994 again. And we all know how badly they screwed over the GIJoe line. Between cutting short the 30th and moving the movie to next March we've gotten a year with out GIJoe in stores. Who does that and expects the line to survive and grow ? The worst part is all those 30th figs they showed off, those would of sold better than the 25th ever did. But Hasbro seems to not want money these days. And we did get G.I. Joe this year. A lot of folks didn't find the tail end of 30th product until early this year, and there was a pretty hefty dose of Retaliation product that still hit shelves despite the date of the movie shifting (some of which can still be found, particularly at Toys R Us). In truth, we'll get about 6-7 months "without Joe" if that, and that's actually shorter than we've had to endure at times in the past (See: The long-delayed shift from RoC to PoC). |
10-24-2012, 02:07 PM | #14 |
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No, it's the Blizzard they are mixed in with that will ultimately lead to my untimely demise.
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10-24-2012, 02:52 PM | #15 |
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10-24-2012, 05:00 PM | #16 |
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10-24-2012, 05:26 PM | #17 |
Cobra Soldier
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Here's my thoughts on this news.
Considering that there were almost no GI Joes released in mass this year it is no surpirse they didn't sell well. You can't expect to profit on something you don't even have out on the shelves! Profits were already lower than they should have been during the post ROC years due to a nonexistent marketing campaign outside of a cartoon aring on an obscure channel and a super bowl trailer. Furthermore, other action figure lines like Star Wars have increased their price up to around ten dollars, but have decreased in quality, the Clone Wars line was awful this year. Why should parents buy more clone troopers when they're worse than the ones that their kids already have? As for preschool toys, I don't know anything about that stuff. Which company owns the imagenix brand? Last edited by lancelot2021; 10-24-2012 at 05:28 PM.. |
10-24-2012, 05:42 PM | #18 |
Junkion Astronomer
Join Date: Nov 2008
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Hasbro always seems to be extremely slow to adapt and change. Look at Star Wars and Transformers, they've been pushing the same characters for what, a decade now ? How many more Stormtrooper/Clonetrooper repaints can they make ? There was a time when those army builders sold like crazy, you couldn't find a single on in the wild unless you got there when they took them out of the box. Now pegs are full of them, Vader, Bumblebee...you name it, they're warming the pegs. Hell look at those Star Wars multi packs that came out a few months ago. I think they were 4 or 5 packs and the figures were from about 10 ago or further back.
They might not track which characters sell, but they need to because they are loseing money over it now. It's looking like 1993/1994 again. And we all know how badly they screwed over the GIJoe line. Between cutting short the 30th and moving the movie to next March we've gotten a year with out GIJoe in stores. Who does that and expects the line to survive and grow ? The worst part is all those 30th figs they showed off, those would of sold better than the 25th ever did. But Hasbro seems to not want money these days. Here's how hasbro can increase sales: Drop the core characters for a while and go back to their 1980's stratagy of releasing an entirely different set of characters each year. That way, people don't get bored over the same characters on the shelf in 2 or more versions.
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10-24-2012, 06:38 PM | #19 |
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Down 12 percent? Its not like we haven't been begging to hand over our money. I mean really? All they have to do is put the shit on the shelves and ill buy it. Its not that hard.
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10-24-2012, 07:22 PM | #20 |
Brotherless One
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I can't say I'm surprised. My local Wal*mart hasn't had much in the way of Hasbro products besides an overflow of Starwars and TFs.
Even the clearance aisle is clogged with Star Scream Kre-O sets. What Hasbro toys they do have seem to be peg warming, either due to not having enough variety of characters in a wave, or the prices just being out of wrack. Case in point; Walmart charges 15.99 for a single Deluxe Transformer. Originally they only charged about 12 or 13, but after this years Generations hit, they marked all the Transformers up. On the other hand K-mart chose to only charge 12.99 (which to me seem like a more fair price point on a deluxe.) But once again when TF:gen came out they upped the price. TF: gen was only 12.99, but TF:prime toys went up to a whopping 19.99. That's a price of a freaking voyager or a Neca figure. Not something I really want to spend on a deluxe. Now granted Hasbro doesn't have any control over a retailers pricing beyond MSRP(Which is also think is too high). But it probably does indicate a lack of faith in ones products from the store when they up the price so dramatically to at least break even. I guess that's what happens when a toy company puts 5 freaking figures of the same character in a case assortment and the store can't seem to get rid of them for months even on clearance. Beyond my grievances with pricing, they seems to have a hard time keeping popular lines in stock, or they over compensate for the line way too much as is the case with the Amazing Spider-Man line. Again I understand Hasbro can't just ship figures out unless they get orders for them, but Wal*mart and K-mart put out these ordering forms for everyone to see on their shelves, and yet it takes forever for the figures to finally come in. So clearly figures are being ordered but Hasbro can't keep up with the manufacturing or the ordering process. Something somewhere is very wrong. It's really daunting and disappointing for this to happen when I'm looking at other companies that don't seem to have the problem. Because I want to give Hasbro my money, but I also want something I can enjoy in return without feeling like I'm being jipped. This is probably why LEGO is getting most of my business now.
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