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06-05-2012, 04:12 PM | #21 |
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Since myself along with countless others have yet to see Ret.SS in the wild let alone buy one, I can say it's not our fault. If it were there to purchase, Hasbro and The Joe franchise would be making more money, but since it isn't they're outshined by other lines that are more readily available. 2 + 2 = 4.
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06-05-2012, 04:14 PM | #22 |
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Well, as far as I am concerned, the kids can have all the Retaliation figures they want. I won't be buying any of that crap anyway...
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06-05-2012, 04:25 PM | #23 |
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Since myself along with countless others have yet to see Ret.SS in the wild let alone buy one, I can say it's not our fault. If it were there to purchase, Hasbro and The Joe franchise would be making more money, but since it isn't they're outshined by other lines that are more readily available. 2 + 2 = 4.
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06-05-2012, 04:53 PM | #24 |
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Yes, adults are killing toys. When we were kids, toys were toys and grown men didn't buy them. Now toys are "collectibles", and kids don't buy them, because they can't find any of the good ones on store shelves. The Renegades Storm Shadow is a very good example. Back in the 80's, Storm Shadow was the figure to have because he looked cool and came with a lot of weapons. It's the same thing today. Only I would bet my left nut that 99% of them purchased were by grown men, for themselves. Kids aren't falling in love with G.I. Joe like we all did. Thirty years from now, it will be guys in their mid sixties keeping the brand alive, not thirty year olds. And definitely not kids.
What Hasbro needs to do is finally cut the cord and start over. Create all new characters, and retire all the ones we grew up with. They can make a budget line, like the Dollar General figures or even the Retaliation figures, with just a simple figure, and minimal weapons. Then make an online-exclusive figure, decked out with every weapon possible and simple extras like a stand or "build a figure" piece for $17 or so, just for adults. |
06-05-2012, 05:00 PM | #25 |
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This morning my nephew came over before school because his mom had something to do taday. Ill give you a little backround on his intrests toy wise. When he was younger he was huge on the cars toys, due to the movie. As he grew up, he moved onto transformers, due to the movie. I have tried to get him into gi joe. I have bought him some figures ext. Fast forward back to this morning. I brought him into my room to show him my collection, its been awhile sence he saw it last and I have picked up some pieces. He is 7 or 8, and last we spoke he had expressed intrest in "the ninjas". I asked him if there were any figures specifically that he liked, because I want to buy him some that he will play with. His jaw dropped when he saw the renegades storm shadow. My heart sunk a little bit, because I'm not dropping like 40 bucks for a single figure. I explained the rarity, he understood. I asked if there were any others he liked. The red ninja was next. So I'm going to try and find him one along with a few others.
So I got to thinking. What are the odds of this kid with one parent ever finding any of the "coolest figures" on the shelves to really spark his intrest. I know for a fact that the chance of any child beating me to a store on the right day and time to get the cool figures is slim to none. So my question is simple. Are we in our love for gi. Joe adding to the prevention of the next generation from gitting involved with the best toy line of all time? I'm not asking about hasbros marketing or distribution, I think we can all agree that plays a part. My kids love toys because I love toys. They love me because I actually play with the toys with them. |
06-05-2012, 05:08 PM | #26 |
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Since myself along with countless others have yet to see Ret.SS in the wild let alone buy one, I can say it's not our fault. If it were there to purchase, Hasbro and The Joe franchise would be making more money, but since it isn't they're outshined by other lines that are more readily available. 2 + 2 = 4.
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06-05-2012, 05:21 PM | #27 |
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I'm pretty sure he's confused Ren(egades) with Ret(aliation).
Why the hell does every Joe line start with "R" anyway? There was Resolute too! What's left? "Retribution"? "Revolution"? |
06-05-2012, 05:38 PM | #28 |
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06-05-2012, 05:39 PM | #29 |
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steevy, that would be the point of kickstartering the figures. You say 'we make it if 10k people buy in, or if we hit this price point via variable amount investors.'
it guarantees you cover your production costs, make a certain percentage of profit, et. al. If it fails, there's no loss. Joe fans are not only cheap, but toy collectors in general are "short sighted", in that when they lose interest in something, they move on to another. The Kickstarter would fail because there are not only NOT a lot of JOe fans, but by the time the toy was actually in production, most would have moved on to the newest things out there. That was the issue the with Hall of Heroes: Collectors voted based on what was hot AT THE TIME, but by the time the assortment was released ONE YEAR later, most had moved on to other toys, or no longer wanted the characters THEY VOTED FOR. Quote:
I thought of the GI Joe team as a real life superhero group or a realistic superhero group. A team that had no real super powers, were real people that were heroes and acted like superheroes. The military unit and weapons were in the background for me, it was the heroes and the heroic action that I noticed.
As cool as PoC was...I think it was still a little too grounded. One of the things I'm glad to see with Retaliation was a return to the "quasi-superhero" design elements, and think it would have sold pretty well even without the movie.
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06-05-2012, 05:43 PM | #30 |
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If the joes came with IPhones or Ipads and 45 free song downloads they might sell better then spring loaded missile crap...but then again it will just be the Ipad or Iphone selling the toy which will get tossed as soon as the kid downloads his 45 free songs ...
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