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05-27-2012, 09:32 PM | #21 |
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Not to mention the fact that 25th figures hit every discount outlet store and literally flooded the pegs for years. I can still find the later waves at my local TJ Maxx stores.
I think the thing GI Joe needs most is some sort of continuity. They release so many different versions that even as collectors we have problems following them. Imagine what the average kid thinks (assuming that kids actually watch Joe). Seriously, RoC, Renegades, Resolute and Retaliation all have completely different stories and continuity is non existent. Put on a quality cartoon on a network that kids have access to and see what happens. Not saying it will work out great but at least give it a chance. Put on 3 or 4 seasons, make the toy line fit the cartoon and then make a movie. But make the movie follow the cartoon as closely as possibly. |
05-27-2012, 10:13 PM | #22 |
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It always bothers me when people hark about "consistency" when it completely ignores the last DECADE of retail trends. Since the "new standard" was introduced by 25th, GI Joe figure design hasn't changed that dramatically (RoC and forward have been refinements to elements introduced in 2007). Only change has been the branding, which is true of pretty much ALL the other toy brands available. The last big run GI JOe had at retail was newsculpt, which by the end of 2002 had no less than FOUR different figure aesthetics on market at the same time. Even by the time Hasbro settled on an aesthetic in 2004, you will had the classic o-ring figures being sold in comic packs and TRU sets. And since the introduction of 25th, GI Joe has barely gotten HALF the support newsculpt got, and it has only gotten worse. Quote:
I did not care to have RoC be the "foundation" of a new modern Joe myself, but I also knew that a revitalized/successful Joe brand would benefit me in other ways. In 2010, I got a Transformers characters named Darkmount (Straxus in the comics). He was basically a TRansformers equivalent to Kwinn or Dr. Venom: a comic only creation fans had only dreamed of getting. In 2006, he wouldn't have even been on the table, much less for MASS RETAIL. All because the movies expanded the brand more than the prior DECADE of well performing lines and cartoons. In the current toy environment, a feature film will reach more people and have the potential to expand the brand more than any cartoon, comic or toyline could ever hope to achieve. The last 3 years have shown that even with an amazing product line, that alone won't drive a brand (neither will catering to collectors). GI Joe isn't growing, and vehicle sales since 2008 have been fucking ABYSMAL. A movie, creating new interest and expanding the brand would ultimately benefit the collector. Without a movie, I question how much longer retailers will continue to support a niche product like Joe.
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05-27-2012, 10:16 PM | #23 |
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Seeing as Hasbro and whoever they contract to do the movie have such problems, it seems to me perhaps the franchise would be better off not having a movie at all.
Just keep things in the realm of toys, comics, cartoons, and maybe video games. Less stress that way and no huge investment in motion picture prices. Hasbro has certainly done itself enough self inflicted harm on its own trying to bring a film to market. I cannot think of any better reason NOT to make a movie when they are bending their own pecker around and pumping their own bung hole.
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05-27-2012, 11:18 PM | #24 |
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The problem with GI Joe is Hasblow. They have no clue what the people who buy their toys want. This has been proven to be true since the renegades and now the retaliation fiasco. It almost makes me wonder if the people who were designing and putting out the POC and 30th lines are even still at hasblow or whether they were the ones who got laid off last year.
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05-27-2012, 11:26 PM | #25 |
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A movie is much needed attention and trying to reach out to new potential fans.
Kids have NO attention spans anymore. They watch a cartoon and 3 minutes later they've forgotten it already. As for comic books? please.....comics are dead. plus with all the techno garbage kids are playing with now....why would they care about toys? PC is another thing.....Joe has strong males in it. So you know thats gonna be villianized by the politically correct cry babies. our current society just has no place for Joe. look how most of America treat actual military personnel and veterans!
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05-27-2012, 11:57 PM | #26 |
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In the current toy environment, a feature film will reach more people and have the potential to expand the brand more than any cartoon, comic or toyline could ever hope to achieve. The last 3 years have shown that even with an amazing product line, that alone won't drive a brand (neither will catering to collectors). GI Joe isn't growing, and vehicle sales since 2008 have been fucking ABYSMAL. A movie, creating new interest and expanding the brand would ultimately benefit the collector. Without a movie, I question how much longer retailers will continue to support a niche product like Joe. Hasbro for the most part is thinking money which is why with both movies we have a half a job on the toy product. But the other side of that is that a movie does continue the brand....in retail stores. Like someone said with 25th having some cancelled at the end of it's reign product was about to go stricktly internet IMO. ROC good or bad brought GI Joe quickly back to the Walmarts, Targets, etc. So when the movie was done what happened next? We got Low Light, LifeLine, Sci Fi etc. Retailers again stopped taking in product bam new movie, new product in brick and mortor. I am a Joe fan since forever but I just cannot do internet only purchasing. Many of us can't. It doesn't mean we are any less of a fan. A movie brings in the younger crowd. Do toy lines based for kids really keep going without anything kid inspired to drive it. We are thinking like collectors and Hasbro only sometimes seem to care about the collector. Me myself I think that anything that can Help keep a GI Joe line alive go for it. It just needs to be a good product. I also agree that a relevent cartoon helps too. My son and I just this past weekend discovered the new Avengers cartoon. Same characters with extras. Plus there is a new Spiderman cartoon running with Avengers. Thats how you do it. Big time movie, toys in the stores and a cartoon to go with it. Main course, side dish and desert.
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05-28-2012, 12:06 AM | #27 |
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To the vast majority of people G.I. joe lost it's resonance around 94. There were no TV shows, no comics,and no toys( atleast they way the were before). Kids born after that time don't have the connection to the material that we do. I mean Transformers still had TV shows like Beast Wars,Armada,Energon, and now Prime. When they lost People do to age or whatever the reason they were always picking up new fans Joe wasn't becuase it was gone. Extreme was there but it was a poor substitute for the stuff we grew up with an soon faded away. Thats the real problem, Hasbro lost faith in the brand. It seems to me that every atempt after that was Hasbro trying to find which direction to move in.
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