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12-14-2008, 05:00 PM | #1551 |
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Yeah, I thought he retired as a Major as well.
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12-15-2008, 09:37 AM | #1552 |
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So they changed Blowtorch's SMS from Combat Engineer to Small-Arms Armorer? Damn, that sucks. I think he worked better as a Combat Engineer, that's where it made the most sense to stick him.
Now what do you do with him? Could throw him on an assault team as a frontliner, I guess.
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12-15-2008, 09:41 AM | #1553 |
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Okay, so I’ve gone back and revised my Cobra units according to file cards and came up with a hierarchy for specialty training. First Cobra Troopers (The Enemy) are like the US Army. They make up the bulk of Cobra infantry, though a lot of them are in garrison, working in security or in supply, etc. Among them are specialists like Bazooka Troopers, Explosive Specialists, Hostile Environment Specialists, Night Watch Troopers, Divers, and Viper (Glider) Pilots. Among the officers are Cobra Officers (Infantry), Desert Specialists, Night Watch Officers, Air Troopers, and HISS and Stinger Drivers.
Vipers, on the other hand, are like the Marines. Many are equal in rank to the regular Cobra infantry but they are highly trained, better equipped, front-line combatants with far more specializations. Vipers are the spearhead of Cobra assaults; however, unfit or disobedient Viper units are downgraded to Desert Scorpions as a form of punishment, and those who do not shape up are further downgraded and forced to serve as Toxo-Vipers in the “Leaky Suit Brigade”. So Toxo-Vipers are really the lowest of them all. Qualified Vipers can specialize in various fields. They can go on to become any of the following units: Motor Vipers (STUN drivers), Tele-Vipers (communications), FRAG-Vipers (grenadiers), Night-Vipers (Night Ops/Snipers), HEAT Vipers (anti-armor), Fast Blast Vipers (anti-armor/demo), FLAK-Vipers (anti-aircraft), Shadow Vipers (covert ops), Shock Vipers (flamethrowers), Techno-Vipers (engineers), Laser-Vipers, SAW-Vipers (machine gunners), Rock-Vipers (mountaineers), Range-Vipers (long-range recon), Secto-Vipers (BUGG drivers), Sludge Vipers (hazardous waste), Sub Vipers (underwater demo), Swamp Vipers (amphibious assault) and Track Vipers (armor drivers). Of all these units, Track Vipers may be selected to receive further training as elite Nitro-Vipers (Detonator drivers). The bulk of the Cobra Air Force consists of Air Vipers (cadets), who must receiving training in all Cobra aircraft and airborne operations before specializing in a particular weapons system. Air Vipers are officers who may qualify as Gyro-Vipers (Mamba pilots), Heli-Vipers (Battle Copter pilots), Aero-Vipers (Condor pilots), AVAC (Firebat pilots), VTOL pilots (like Vapor), and Rattler pilots (like Wild Weasel). Only the best Air Vipers will qualify as Strato-Vipers (Night Raven pilots), who may also advance as Astro-Vipers or Star-Vipers with additional space training. Last but not least are the Cobra frogmen, otherwise known as Eels. The Eels are exactly like Navy SEALs—an elite, highly trained unit of Special Forces. Exceptional Cobra divers are often selected for Eel training but many Eels are drawn from the ranks of Cobra infantry and Vipers (especially Sub and Swamp Vipers). The Cobra Eels also serve as a springboard for other Special Forces type units. Eels can be recruited for advanced training as Sea Slugs (Sea Ray navigators), Hydro-Vipers, Morays (who may also become Electric Eels), Para-Vipers and Snow Serpents. Eel officers may also be selected to train and serve as Lampreys (Hydrofoil pilots). Snow Serpents are perhaps the most elite branch because they must also qualify as Para-Vipers and receive additional airborne training in the arctic. Now arguably the most highly trained unit in all of Cobra is the Ice Viper. Ice Vipers must first serve as Eels, qualify as Para-Vipers and eventually Snow Serpents, and then receive additional training as Techno-Vipers before joining the mechanized branch of arctic WOLF drivers. So where do the Neo Vipers fit into that? You also forgot Sand Vipers and Alley Vipers, but damn, that's pretty comprehensive. No one else needs do a Cobra work-up again, you got it nailed.
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12-15-2008, 10:58 AM | #1554 |
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Alright guys here's a question I was asking myself recently when I found the Beach Head Main Frame comic pack and reading the Main Frame's file card. I know his name reads Data Frame but wasn't it Main Frame (sorry if this was already asked) The other thing that got me was why join the Marines after MIT when you were already Airborne certified. I know I would just go back to the Army or whatever service branch I came from!
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12-15-2008, 11:10 AM | #1555 |
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12-15-2008, 11:16 AM | #1556 |
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Alright guys here's a question I was asking myself recently when I found the Beach Head Main Frame comic pack and reading the Main Frame's file card. I know his name reads Data Frame but wasn't it Main Frame (sorry if this was already asked) The other thing that got me was why join the Marines after MIT when you were already Airborne certified. I know I would just go back to the Army or whatever service branch I came from!
I don't know why he went and joined the Marines. I'm thinking it was a "prove I can" kind of thing. He was already airborne certified and an MIT graduate, and at his age, I think he wanted to prove he could still hold his own. If had rejoined the army, would have been able to skip boot, would probably have been made an officer and given a desk job in the computer section. If join the Marines, he'd have to go thru boot and then could probably go into some kind of combat role. Also prove to himself, his superiors and the other soldiers that he deserved to be there. That be my thinking anyways.
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12-15-2008, 11:26 AM | #1557 |
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Hasbro did one of the name changes (like Shockwave to Shockblast) for Mainframe/Dataframe (I guess it's better then now being G.I. Joe Hawk or G.I. Joe Cutter or Dreadnok Torch).
I don't know why he went and joined the Marines. I'm thinking it was a "prove I can" kind of thing. He was already airborne certified and an MIT graduate, and at his age, I think he wanted to prove he could still hold his own. If had rejoined the army, would have been able to skip boot, would probably have been made an officer and given a desk job in the computer section. If join the Marines, he'd have to go thru boot and then could probably go into some kind of combat role. Also prove to himself, his superiors and the other soldiers that he deserved to be there. That be my thinking anyways. No, he won't necessarily skip boot or automatically become an officer just because he has an MIT degree. We had a lot of prior service in my basic training unit. it was explained to us that if they were out for year plus. The Army would most likely had them redo boot. For every 6 months after that that they were out they lost one pay grade. We had a sergeant who was out for 6 years and they had him busted down to a E-2. We called him Papa Smurf because he was under 5foot tall and was like 37 years old. Also we had alot of college grads. (no ROTC experience) who were recruited off the streets and were give E-4 pay grade rather than E-1 when they enlisted automatically because they had college degrees. if they wanted to be officers they still had to go to Officer Candidate School. |
12-15-2008, 11:33 AM | #1558 |
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Still think it was a "prove I can" kind of thing. Isn't Marine boot the toughest one? For him to go be a Marine, at an older age, would seem to indicate he was out to prove something.
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12-15-2008, 02:08 PM | #1559 |
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Meant that he had already been thru the Army boot and Airborne school, so reenlisting in the Army (and now having a degree) would have pushed him past boot and made him an officer (similar to ROTC).
Still think it was a "prove I can" kind of thing. Isn't Marine boot the toughest one? For him to go be a Marine, at an older age, would seem to indicate he was out to prove something. Negative on the reenlisting. If someone "retired" went to school then reenlisted, in the Army - anyways - then (even if he was Jump Qualified) he would still have to do Boot if he was out too long. Best case is he'll have to go thru AIT for what ever MOS he is going for. Just because he has a degree doesn't mean squat if the military could care less....remember this is the same military that would rather pull half the teeth in your mouth out instead of fill a cavity. But let's say Mainframe an E-5 in the Army...decided to stay in the army instead of go to the marines. Went to school parttime and lets say he's been in 10 years and his contract is about to expire. He can retire (ETS) or reenlist (reup) for another 10 years. And he re-ups without leaving the service for a day: then he won't have to redo boot. If he changes MOS...he will have to go back to MOS school (AIT) as "prior service" skipping boot. If he wants to cash in on his degree and become an officer he will need to go to OCS. If he left the service even for a short time...the likelihood of having to repeat everything again becomes higher the longer he is out. So unless he does ROTC or have it written into his contract that he will be sent to OCS immediately after any extra train he need to redo then he will continue to be enlisted. The army only give automatic Officer rank for a limited number of fields. Medical, Chaplin, Avaition (i think, for those with piloting skills). Oliver correct me if I am wrong but these are my experiences when I was in the service. |
12-15-2008, 02:28 PM | #1560 |
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Anyone seen the new resolute file cards? Any differance?
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