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01-09-2012, 11:26 PM | #1 |
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Ok ok, I admit I have no clue how the ranks of cobra works, so I hope someone can break it down for me where the vipers belong, the troopers , shock troopers, ?
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01-09-2012, 11:42 PM | #2 |
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Depends on you
to me Blueshirts are enlisted private-to-Sgt officers LT-and-up Vipers-Marines EELS-Navy Snow Serpents-SEALS CGs-MPs-Cobras Gestapo Noks-Mercenaries Night Watch-Black Ops |
01-09-2012, 11:43 PM | #3 |
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well, here's my tiny 2 cents and it's just me but..... blue shirts are your basic enlistees trying to make their way to the viper ranks where they start over again. viper is the first title given to a cobra soldier before they finish specialized training like techno, frag, alley, and so on and so forth. that's my two cents and how i work my system.
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01-09-2012, 11:43 PM | #4 |
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In my Joeverse, each secter of Cobra ( vipers, troopers , shock troopers, techno-vipers) is its own entity. they have ranks like any other military unit from private on up to Seargent. Depending on thye mission you mite have a trooper of higher rank leading some vipers on a covert mission. You may also have a viper Seargent leading a squad of new troopers on a raid.
Cobra has an officer that is just called Cobra officer. These are exaclty what their title state, Officers. They outrank the rest of the Cobra troops reguardless of whether they are a Viper, Ally viper, Eel, or whatever their title is. At least that is how my Joevers works. This is not set in stone by any comic or cartoon lore, this is just my opinion. Hope it helps. |
01-10-2012, 12:06 AM | #5 |
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In my Joeverse, each secter of Cobra ( vipers, troopers , shock troopers, techno-vipers) is its own entity. they have ranks like any other military unit from private on up to Seargent. Depending on thye mission you mite have a trooper of higher rank leading some vipers on a covert mission. You may also have a viper Seargent leading a squad of new troopers on a raid.
Cobra has an officer that is just called Cobra officer. These are exaclty what their title state, Officers. They outrank the rest of the Cobra troops reguardless of whether they are a Viper, Ally viper, Eel, or whatever their title is. At least that is how my Joevers works. This is not set in stone by any comic or cartoon lore, this is just my opinion. Hope it helps.
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01-10-2012, 01:04 AM | #6 |
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Yeah there has always been some debate on this...it all seems to fall int two catagories.
1) Vipers are the bottom rung you can then move up to other special Viper units, eventually you can be a trooper or officer. 2) OR you start out as a trooper then officer, etc and then Viper etc. Take your pick. |
01-10-2012, 01:16 AM | #7 |
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Thank u guys, helped me out a lot
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01-10-2012, 06:52 AM | #8 |
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In the end it's your verse so it can be whatever you want, but this is how I see it. Food for thought:
I see it like this. Bottom rung is a Blueshirt. Really a private. He maybe gets some Cobra basic training/indoctrination and is handed the standard issue Dragunov Rifle cause cobra got those at a bargain price during the cold war. Once he gets a promotion he can continue to move up the ranks in the Blue Shirts regular units or he can get specialized. I would say a majority of the Cobra operatives are blueshirts. Supply guys, maintenance, security, transport, ditch-diggers, basic logistics. Should they want more money and danger they move to the Viper Corps. These are Cobra Assault troopers. Either a Ranger or Marine Equivalent. Once they complete the training they are Corporals (E-4) You first need to complete Viper training to move to any of the other Viper Specialties. For this fact alone All Specialty Vipers are at least E-5 sgts. Range-Vipers and Alley-Vipers and Para-vipers and Snow Serpents are all E-7 equivalents to begin with due to the amount of time they spend training To become an officer in any unit of Cobra you just have to be the most ruthless guy around. It's more of a title than anything else. You get paid more but you have to answer to someone above and battlefield executions of officers are common. So any Cobra Officer is not afraid of anyone. The rank of (0-4) Major is about as high as a faceless Cobra gets. Many of the named Cobras are at least (0-5) Commander. So Rip-It, Skull-buster, Claymore, Snow-Serpent Commander are all (0-5), and they are as ruthless and tough as Cobra has. Now Crimson Guards that's an interesting one. For me since there are a million versions now. (This is my verse of course) All are officers, they are commissioned as Capt. right off the bat. You figure all are college educated and Lawyers or accountants. So much like our Armed forces they get commissions. They are the spies of Cobra as well. But they have other roles as well. Like the SS they are the best trained troops in Cobra. They are the Political Officers of Cobra, sort of like how Soviet era Russia was set up. So he may not be the field commander but he could just as easily put a bullet in the field commanders head and take over.. They are trained as military officers and are usually brighter than what gets put in the field. Shadow Guards are the Gestapo wing of the Crimson Guards. Crimson Guard Immortals are the Highest ranking CGs and they do serve as battle field commanders occasionally. They all hold the rank of Colonel. They are only tapped for duty to serve with Cobra Commander. Cobra Commander does not travel lightly armed. But he keeps his detachment with him at all times. If one of these guys tells you to do something you know it came straight from the Commander. Crimson guard commanders are 0-5 equivalents and they serve as Battlefield commanders and are the next step down. I haven't quite worked out Crimson Horsemen, but maybe they are a Particular outfit of CG drivers? Most CGs are Capts or Maj and there is one attached to every unit. Like a Chaplain
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01-10-2012, 08:41 AM | #9 |
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A member named Nictus made a flowchart, I like it:
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...low-chart.html |
01-10-2012, 09:30 AM | #10 |
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It's a bit confusing and Hasbro hasn't helped releasing so many troop figures.
Originally, when it was first released the Vipers were supposed to replace the blueshirts, so that they were basically the same person but with better gear. But then Hasbro just kept replacing new versions of both figures, as well as lots of other troop figures. Basically, do what you want to do. There is no official ranking. For me: Blueshirts are the infantry of Cobra. Vipers are the special forces.
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