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12-30-2011, 09:43 PM | #11 |
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Do you think theyll last that long? I just think that the rubbery filmsy plastic used might disentigrate...Hope not, but well see.
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12-30-2011, 09:46 PM | #12 |
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The 25th/Modern Era/ROC/POC/30th figures will not be worth anything..
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12-30-2011, 09:57 PM | #13 |
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It depends on how rich 80's kids get in their old age, because they won't be worth shit to the current generation.
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12-30-2011, 09:59 PM | #14 |
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I sit there and look at them and as I have shared think about what they could be worth one day but in the end everything gets opened. It was just a fun thought. Back in the 80's some people had the presence of mind to not open there joes and look at what some of that stuff is going for now.
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12-30-2011, 10:13 PM | #16 |
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12-30-2011, 10:13 PM | #17 |
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A lot of it has to do with nostalgia value. A lot of collectors here on this site had GI JOE's as kids. How many kids today in 25-30 years will want to collect them if they never had them to begin with? GI JOE figures are not exactly easy to come across in retail stores these days.
It's like all the hype around the Death of Superman comic. I remember people asking me "should I buy 10 copies? Will they be worth a lot of money later on?" Sorry, but no. As a rule, anything past 1990 is practically worthless in value, including Joes as compared to the iconic toy lines of the early 80's. It's only the early 80's toy lines like Masters of the Universe, Transformers and GI JOE that are worth thousands of dollars today in their packages. Back in the 80's, I knew of no one that collected toys and kept them sealed in their packages. Nobody did. Compare that to today. How many people are encouraged to buy one to remove from their package and one to store for "future investment (lol!!!)" There are a lot more 25th Joes still sealed in their packages than 80's Joes. Plus, don't forget, it will be all about DEMAND for the 25th Joes in the future, which I expect to be very little unfortunately.
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12-30-2011, 10:17 PM | #18 |
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A lot of it has to do with nostalgia value. A lot of collectors here on this site had GI JOE's as kids. How many kids today in 25-30 years will want to collect them if they never had them to begin with? GI JOE figures are not exactly easy to come across in retail stores these days.
It's like all the hype around the Death of Superman comic. I remember people asking me "should I buy 10 copies? Will they be worth a lot of money later on?" Sorry, but no. As a rule, anything past 1990 is practically worthless in value, including Joes as compared to the iconic toy lines of the early 80's. It's only the early 80's toy lines like Masters of the Universe, Transformers and GI JOE that are worth thousands of dollars today in their packages. Back in the 80's, I knew of no one that collected toys and kept them sealed in their packages. Nobody did. Compare that to today. How many people are encouraged to buy one to remove from their package and one to store for "future investment (lol!!!)" There are a lot more 25th Joes still sealed in their packages than 80's Joes. Plus, don't forget, it will be all about DEMAND for the 25th Joes in the future, which I expect to be very little unfortunately. |
12-30-2011, 10:22 PM | #19 |
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Agh! You beat me to it!
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12-30-2011, 10:29 PM | #20 |
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I like the topic of your thread.
I bought allot of the 25th line and left them packaged, thinking the same thing... I've seen a similar discussion based around the value of collectables, and how they have a prime investment sale value expiry date. There are differently a lot of things to consider that’s for sure. The thing about arah gi joes, is they are pretty much only desirable to those who played with them as a kid, with the 25th line being mostly created with the intent to be similar to that of the original, Hasbro knew that their sale value would be high to collectors/parents, and to also reinvest into the new generation of kids, as those played with the toys in the 80's are now in the baby making business, and that the toys would stand out to their parents and then in turn reinvest their desire for their children to play with them too, starting a new generation of interest. The general toy industry took a dive, since the creation of computer/video games, and this in turn will likely affect the overall market desire to collect with the second generation of interest. I don’t think the 30th/25th line will peak any much over double their value, regardless to how long you hold onto them for, and from a investment perspective, aside from the rare ones, which are already at a high price, the investment value is still likely only to be double. For the regular items, anyway, especially for items out of package. Collectable prices are all based around consumer willingness to pay a specific price for the nostalgia or the desire to fulfil their collection/ownership of the item and the sellers self value of the item VS the rarity of the item / production quantity of the item and for older toys + the condition of the toy in 30 years time, and what they the seller of the item wants to be compensated for parting with the item. For example sdcc gold head pimp daddy destro, is going at around $150 now, and at one stage was fetching $250+ I think it will now sit at $150, but for a original value of $15 - $30 to begin with the, investment value will probably reach no more than double of $250. Now for this figure to be considered that valuable in 30 years time, is based on a few things: How many kids actually got to play with a figure from the comic con? Probably not many I’d say a lot of them are still behind their bubble, in the hands of collectors, and only a few actually exists out of package, so the popularity / nostalgia value of the figure to children is unlikely to be high, the collectors who wanted the figure are likely to already have one. Thus, unless they were looking to part with their collection it then comes down to, who doesn’t have the figure and who wants to buy it and what the collector is willing to part for it. Inflation takes a big part on it too; the value of $5 back then, is now the equivalent of $10 now. So with that in consideration, and if that trend continues, unless the item is sold for triple the original value, you’re probably not gaining anything, logistically. I did some calculations, and I estimated, the figures alone, if sold individually from 82-2011 was in effect approximately $20k out of box, keeping in mind the varying cost with the rare and desirable figures. With an average of approximately $10 a figure for 2000+ figures / including repaints and variants. For packaged figures it’s ranged between double to 5x the price for some of the original figures. But in turn a full collection would then in turn be around $100,000 for the entire line of figured (and that’s just figures), storing that amount of figures is painfully annoying, as I have about 30+ 25th figures in packages, to be sold on eBay, in 10 years time, providing the American dollar picks up again. (I’m from Australia, so if the Australian dollar drops 50%, then the value of my figures doubles, if the Australian Dollar went up another 50 cents then the sale value is unlikely to ever be valuable). Only the wealthy of the wealthy, could ever afford to spend that sort of cash, so packaged items, are generally kept for those more child hood nostalgia one of pieces, hence why most of the ARAH snake eyes figures, and USS FLAG in package are worth so much. With this in mind, the original cost only being between $3.50 to $6.50 between the 80's and 90's, it still on average only works out to be double of the existing price, although being out of packet, affects this costs, it begs to ask the second question, how many people are going to be willing to spend $20,000+ collecting the entire line. We are still in the 1st generation of collector hype, where boxed vehicles, that costed around $150 at the time (USS FLAG), in some cases are fetching around $5000-$10,000, although the value is based on the consumer, for those who are willing to pay that sort of money, they must be willing to part with the money. the 2nd generation, are unlikely to even know what the USS FLAG is (this will control the ongoing value of the vehicle past the 30 year bracket), unless they are the prodigy of a collector, and the POC mobile pitt for example will be something they will desire, however the hype and consumer response from kids, hasn't been very high, although with video games being so desired by kids these days and the sale value these days of the figures is higher due to inflation from market, material, production conditions and shipping conditions, are likely holding back the population of kids who should be playing with the line, with the ration of population increase, this is likely to result in less future collectors. So this has impacted on the modern range, and in essence is why gi joe figures were once again discontinued in Australia, and the overall cost and desire of the item, will affect the collector price, in another 30 years time, and they simply might never be desirable. There is generally 2 periods in which we collect, between 25to 35, when we have money and don’t know what to spend it on, and from 55 – 70 in retirement, when the excess of money is there once more and the desire to have the toy reignites their nostalgia, aside from the hardcore collectors whom carry on collecting, ongoing, until they become owned by their own collection. Who are likely to already have a huge significant amount of resources and like you have kept figures in their package. Although on a positive note, the new articulation type, and advancements to their design and colour range, as put the product in a better position than where it was at in the 90's. So I think Hasbro are on a winning trend once more with the figures, so I think they will stay strong for another generation of collectors, and that their value will mimic those of our first generation. I personally am collecting, figures to place into display cases, to turn them into nostalgia pop art pieces. It has been a very expensive journey, and my found interests into customising has made, it hard to complete. |
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