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05-21-2011, 12:23 AM | #1 |
Cobra Viper
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So I have never read the original marvel line and am looking forward to making up for lost time this summer.
My question is how much of the series includes the original 13 characters? Why have these characters not survived throughout the history of Joe excluding of course Hawk, SE, Scarlett, and Stalker? Really just wanted to start a discussion on the Original 13. Any thoughts?
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05-21-2011, 12:26 AM | #2 |
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you have a bit of a shock with a SAW viper down the line, and Doc...
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05-21-2011, 12:27 AM | #3 |
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Ahhrr spoiler alert!!!!
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05-21-2011, 12:40 AM | #4 |
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So I have never read the original marvel line and am looking forward to making up for lost time this summer.
My question is how much of the series includes the original 13 characters? Why have these characters not survived throughout the history of Joe excluding of course Hawk, SE, Scarlett, and Stalker? Really just wanted to start a discussion on the Original 13. Any thoughts? The reason they didn't survive throughout history is twofold, first, the constant release of new characters dampened their ability to be consistently showcased and secondly, Hama got really weird about writing around like 10 characters and rotating whatever years new guys in.
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05-21-2011, 12:42 AM | #5 |
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I love the issue where Rock-N-Roll is on vacation with a couple of other Joes and runs into the Dreadnoks, who are playing with Zartan's hologram projecting motorcycle. That was a cool story with an original Joe!
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05-21-2011, 12:42 AM | #6 |
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So I have never read the original marvel line and am looking forward to making up for lost time this summer.
My question is how much of the series includes the original 13 characters? Why have these characters not survived throughout the history of Joe excluding of course Hawk, SE, Scarlett, and Stalker? Really just wanted to start a discussion on the Original 13. Any thoughts? He maintained this despite some characters' action figures going out of production. The story follows Scarlett, Snake Eyes, Stalker, Hawk, COBRA Commander and the Baroness all the way from beginning to end. Some characters like Destro, Storm Shadow, Flint and Lady J remain staples once they enter the story. Other original 13 characters, like Grunt and Breaker, make significant appearances later on down the line long after their action figures weren't part of the toy line. It's really more the latter day Joes and COBRAs who get the shaft as far as inclusion and character development. One of the weaknesses of the Marvel run is there will be a number of issues where suddenly there are a dozen new Joes and then you never really see them again except in the background after their debut, but I'm sure they had to be included as part of merchandising. Still, there is a reason why Marvel GIJOE is considered by many to be the definitive GIJOE. It is superb! I myself am getting ready to re-read the story with my new TPBs starting from issue #51 and the Special Missions.
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05-21-2011, 12:56 AM | #7 |
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I have been buying the TPB's as well and am just trying to set some time aside to start reading these. Also, isn't the diagram of the PIT in one of the first issues? I noticed Vol 1 (TPB) does not include this image. Do you guys know of any other omitions such ad this in other volumes?
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05-21-2011, 12:58 AM | #8 |
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I have been buying the TPB's as well and am just trying to set some time aside to start reading these. Also, isn't the diagram of the PIT in one of the first issues? I noticed Vol 1 (TPB) does not include this image. Do you guys know of any other omitions such ad this in other volumes?
I'm thinking my TPB has the Pit diagram...but I have the older ones, too. Dunno...
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05-21-2011, 04:57 AM | #9 |
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Marvel #22 has a diagram of the PIT, not sure whether it's in the TPB as mine are packed away atm.
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05-21-2011, 07:15 AM | #10 |
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The original 13 are often popping up in stories, but it was made clear in one issue that many of them would be given desk jobs in the administrative wing. The comics even made clear that the new Joes would be their replacements. Yet, for issue 49, many - if not all - were recalled for the attack on Springfield. And again, it seems they were recalled for the SAW Viper battles. Look for them in the "big battles". DDP had an issue where the surviving members (big hint there) of the 13 came back together for a mission. You just have to remember that aesthetically, Hasbro made most of the 13 to be repaints of the same molds so having Grand Slam and Flash in the same comic was problematic - which was which?
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