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03-19-2011, 04:41 AM | #11 |
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Mine is pretty simple
Bottom Tier Troopers, Officers, anything that ends in Viper or any sort of nameless faceless legion character. Specialists Any single person Major Blood, Scrap Iron, Snow Serpent Commander, Firefly etc. Now any of these fellows can also have a private band of soldiers hand picked soldiers like Major Bludd's Skull Squad or Zartan and the Dreadnoks. Then we have Command Tier Baroness, Destro, Mindbender, Serpentor...again all of these can and do have their own personal armies / guards etc. Finally Cobra Commander who has his Plague Guard Needless to say as Cobra is pardon the pun a nest of vipers plots within plots command changes from time to time and people and their various personal guards will come and go at the whims and promises of personal lose or gains. |
03-20-2011, 12:08 AM | #12 |
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03-20-2011, 12:31 AM | #13 |
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I had a serious answer, but now I wanna enroll in a yoga class..I hear they're very bendy.
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03-20-2011, 12:47 AM | #14 |
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03-20-2011, 01:18 AM | #15 |
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My Joeverse -- Cobra Commander at the top
Destro has his Iron Grenadiers The Crimson Twins have their Crimson Guards Zartan has his dreadnoks Storm Shadow over all the ninjas Baroness and Major Bludd are field commanders over all troopers and vipers Wild Weasel is air commander and the rest of Cobra Commander's top associates like Firefly or Mindbender don't command. That is close to how I see it as well, however, Dr. Minbender and Scrap-Iron are in charge of B.A.T.S. and Major Bludd isn't exactly under Cobra employ, he like Zartan is a hired thug. I see it as; 1.Golobulus, if he was still alive, (he's dead in my personal cannon) 2.Serpentor, and Cobra Commander, and Pythona 3.Destro, Baroness, Dr. Minbender, Storm Shadow (if he was still working for Cobra, in my cannon he is back with the joes... again.) Tomax and Xamot 4.Bludd, Zartan, Wild Weasel, Scrap-Iron, Firefly, and Copperhead, Voltar 5.Zarana, Zandar, Crystal Ball, Croc Master, Darklon 6. Nemisis Enforcer, the other Dreadknocks, Big Boa, Metal Head 7.Crimson Guards/ Royal Cobra La Guards 8.Vipers, Alley Vipers, Tele-Vipers, Air Vipers, Cobra Eels, Night Vipers 9.All other specialty Vipers 10.Cobra Troopers
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03-22-2011, 09:36 AM | #16 |
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WOW! This is very nice and detailed. I like the list a lot.
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Here's my take:
Now the top of the Hierachy is much like this: (keep in mind no one has ever died in my Cobraverse) Cobra Commander = King Serpentor = Emperor More or less equivalents although they try not to occupy the same space. CC hangs at Cobra Island mostly, Serpentor tries to do most of the fighting since he is a better stategist. CC is a better money maker. Destro = Marshall (0-10) Generals Overlord Tomax Xamot Gen. Mayhem (0-9) Lt. Generals Baroness Darklon Dr. Minbender Black Dragon Cesspool (0-8) Maj Generals Maj Gen Bludd Voltar Storm Shadow Dr. Venom Zartan Headman (0-7) Brig Generals Firefly Wild Weasel Alexander Destro Hannibal Interrogator CLAWS Commander (0-6)Colonels Mortal Scrap-Iron Night Creeper Leader Gristle Red Laser Venomus Maximus Big Boa Overkill Scalpel (0-5) Lt. Colonels Guillotine Snow Serpent Commander SkullBuster Cooperhead Zarana Lt Col Claymore Slice Rip It Crystal ball Escorpio Voador Neo-Viper Commander (0-4) Majors Zandar Dr. Knox Hotwire Skycreeper BLackout Croc Master Raptor Metal-Head Neuro toxin Razorclaw GhostBear Coil Crusher Hopefully that's everyone. Major(Gen) Bludd and Firefly and Zartan are all paid and treated like Generals, should they lead troops. Bludd does so more often. I treat him as the Commander of the Infantry Forces anyway. Scrap-Iron and Copperhead are Colonels. SCrap-Iron stopped working for Destro 20 years ago. Firefly and Maj Bludd have been employed for so long they don't really work for anyone else. Although Firefly rarely leads troop sizes large enough to be a General, he carries that rank and all its pay. It's more like a government equivalent. There are CIA agents that plan with generals and Colonels and their GS grades make them equivalents. Like most Terrorist organizations, Cobra doesn't have government ranks, but they hand out military titles like free taffy. Plus My Cobra Army is also a Mercenary Army so it's useful to rank as high or higher as the local commanders you are assisting. I mostly disregard the ranks we were given. I have one (0-6) Viper (Gold Sonic Viper) Cobra Drivers are (0-2)Lts The various other Cobra Officers and Neo-vipers and Hiss drivers are Captains or Majors or Lt. depending on which ever I have the most or least of. The more I have the lower the rank. All Specialty Vipers are at least E-5 sgts. Range-Vipers and Alley-Vipers and Para-vipers and Snow Serpents are all E-7. There are no Warrant Officers but a lot of Sgt Majors. All Dreadnoks are paid as Sgt Majors except Buzzer who is a Capt. Pilots are a little different. But since they don't command troops they are not really in charge of anyone but themselves. Wild Weasel is the exception. I assume some of the more specialty Vipers have higher ranks to start with in general, but they hold ranks just like any other unit. Therefore a Sgt doesn't outrank a Captain ever. I see it like this. Bottom rung is a Blueshirt. Really a private. He maybe gets some Cobra basic training/indoctrination and is handed the standard issue Dragunov Rifle cause cobra got those at a bargain price during the cold war. Once he gets a promotion he can continue to move up the ranks in the Blue Shirts regular units or he can get specialized. I would say a majority of the Cobra operatives are blueshirts. Supply guys, maintenance, security, transport, ditch-diggers, basic logistics. Should they want more money and danger they move to the Viper Corps. These are Cobra Assault troopers. Either a Ranger or Marine Equivalent. Should they start in the Cobra Navy then they would move into the Eel Corps instead of the Viper Corps. Once they complete the training they are Corporals (E-4) You first need to complete Viper/Eel training to move to any of the other Viper Specialties. For this fact alone All Specialty Vipers are at least E-5 sgts. Range-Vipers and Alley-Vipers and Para-vipers and Snow Serpents are all E-7 equivalents to begin with due to the amount of time they spend training To become an officer in any unit of Cobra you just have to be the most ruthless guy around. It's more of a title than anything else. You get paid more but you have to answer to someone above and battlefield executions of officers are common. So any Cobra Officer is not afraid of anyone. The rank of (0-4) Major is about as high as a faceless Cobra gets. Many of the named Cobras are at least (0-5) Commander. So Rip-It, Skull-buster, Claymore, Snow-Serpent Commander are all (0-5), and they are as ruthless and tough as Cobra has. Now Crimson Guards that's an interesting one. For me since there are a million versions now. (This is my verse of course) All are officers, they are commissioned as Capt. right off the bat. You figure all are college educated and Lawyers or accountants. So much like our Armed forces they get commissions. They are the spies of Cobra as well. But they have other roles as well. Like the SS they are the best trained troops in Cobra. They are the Political Officers of Cobra, sort of like how Soviet era Russia was set up. So he may not be the field commander but he could just as easily put a bullet in the field commanders head and take over.. They are trained as military officers and are usually brighter than what gets put in the field. Shadow Guards are the Gestapo wing of the Crimson Guards. Crimson Guard Immortals are the Highest ranking CGs and they do serve as battle field commanders occasionally. They all hold the rank of Colonel. They are only tapped for duty to serve with Cobra Commander. Cobra Commander does not travel lightly armed. But he keeps his detachment with him at all times. If one of these guys tells you to do something you know it came straight from the Commander. Crimson guard commanders are 0-5 equivalents and they serve as Battlefield commanders and are the next step down. Most CGs are Capts or Maj and there is one attached to every unit. Like a Chaplain. Yes I had too much time on my hands, so I just copied and pasted this from every time this comes up. My only new problem is how to add the Red Shadows and Dr Doom and the Red Skull.
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03-22-2011, 10:59 AM | #17 |
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For me, It goes like this:
Cobra Commander and Serpentor: They are not both in command at the same time, and it's a constant power struggle. I love Hama's take on this, and it's pretty much the way I use them too. Tomax & Xamot: They are in charge of all of Cobra's finances, as well as the Crimson Guard. They are the CFO's of Cobra. Baroness: She is at the same level as the Twins, but she is the head of the military operations. If the Twins are the Chief Financial Officers, Baroness would be the Chief Military Officer. Storm Shadow: When he was a bad guy, he wasn't exactly a Cobra soldier, he was just Cobra Commander's bodyguard/assassin. Dr. Mindbender: He doesn't have a leadership position (except when Serpentor is in control, but even then it isn't an official position). He is just in charge of Cobra's biological R&D. Wild Weasel: He's in charge of the Cobra Air Force. Copperhead: He's in charge of the Cobra Navy. Overlord: He's a battlefield General that has delusions of grandeur. Scrap Iron: He's in charge of Cobra's military R&D. In my Joeverse Dr. Mindbender didn't create the BATs, Scrap Iron's group did. Big Boa, Crock Master, Crystal Ball, Interrogator, and Raptor: None of these guys are in real leadership positions. They are just guys that have there own departments. Big Boa is in charge of training, Crock master is in charge of security on Cobra Island, etc. None of these guys would give orders to a Viper unless that Viper was working in their department. These guys aren't in the chain of command. Destro: He's not a part of Cobra, he just sells weapons to them. Voltar is the highest ranking IG. Darklon isn't really an IG, he just helps Destro out on occasion. Major Bludd: He is not an official member of Cobra, but they keep him on a retainer. He does mostly assassinations and stuff like that, but in a pinch he will lead ground forces. Firefly: In my universe, Firefly has never even met the majority of the Cobras. When Cobra needs something blown up they put a large sum of money into a Swiss Bank, and then that thing blows up. Zartan: Like Major Bludd, he's not a Cobra, he just works for them a lot as a contractor. Zartan and the Dreadnoks get called in when Cobra want something done that they don't want traced back to them. I'm leaving some off, but that's the way the major players in Cobra are associated, IMO. |
03-22-2011, 11:08 AM | #18 |
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my hierarchy is in my signature...as is the flow chart of Cobra Troop training/specialization
but now that PoC is out i need to incorporate the new types |
03-22-2011, 11:19 AM | #19 |
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03-22-2011, 11:24 AM | #20 |
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For me, It goes like this:
Cobra Commander and Serpentor: They are not both in command at the same time, and it's a constant power struggle. I love Hama's take on this, and it's pretty much the way I use them too. Tomax & Xamot: They are in charge of all of Cobra's finances, as well as the Crimson Guard. They are the CFO's of Cobra. Baroness: She is at the same level as the Twins, but she is the head of the military operations. If the Twins are the Chief Financial Officers, Baroness would be the Chief Military Officer. Storm Shadow: When he was a bad guy, he wasn't exactly a Cobra soldier, he was just Cobra Commander's bodyguard/assassin. Dr. Mindbender: He doesn't have a leadership position (except when Serpentor is in control, but even then it isn't an official position). He is just in charge of Cobra's biological R&D. Wild Weasel: He's in charge of the Cobra Air Force. Copperhead: He's in charge of the Cobra Navy. Overlord: He's a battlefield General that has delusions of grandeur. Scrap Iron: He's in charge of Cobra's military R&D. In my Joeverse Dr. Mindbender didn't create the BATs, Scrap Iron's group did. Big Boa, Crock Master, Crystal Ball, Interrogator, and Raptor: None of these guys are in real leadership positions. They are just guys that have there own departments. Big Boa is in charge of training, Crock master is in charge of security on Cobra Island, etc. None of these guys would give orders to a Viper unless that Viper was working in their department. These guys aren't in the chain of command. Destro: He's not a part of Cobra, he just sells weapons to them. Voltar is the highest ranking IG. Darklon isn't really an IG, he just helps Destro out on occasion. Major Bludd: He is not an official member of Cobra, but they keep him on a retainer. He does mostly assassinations and stuff like that, but in a pinch he will lead ground forces. Firefly: In my universe, Firefly has never even met the majority of the Cobras. When Cobra needs something blown up they put a large sum of money into a Swiss Bank, and then that thing blows up. Zartan: Like Major Bludd, he's not a Cobra, he just works for them a lot as a contractor. Zartan and the Dreadnoks get called in when Cobra want something done that they don't want traced back to them. I'm leaving some off, but that's the way the major players in Cobra are associated, IMO. |
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