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02-10-2010, 04:00 PM | #891 |
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There's a very fine difference between "covert" and "clandestine" in military/paramilitary usage, as it has huge implications legally (both under US law and in international law). Covert operations, according to the DoD dictionary, are operations whose sponsorship can be legally denied. What that means basically, is that an agency authorised to conduct covert operations is under no obligation to disclose these operations to Congress or the Senate (and to a limited extent, to international courts of law). Clandestine operations are those operations that are conducted under concealment, but their sponsors are not hidden (e.g., Congress has to know about how these operations are funded, the chain of command, etc.) Strictly speaking, only the CIA can conduct covert operations (as outlined in Section 503 of the National Security Act of 1947), which is why I created a special activities task force composed of seconded CIA personnel... to give the GIJOE team an arm that has the legal and above-board ability to conduct covert operations. Quote:
They have no real mandate stateside (don't forget the Posse Comitatus Act) except on military installations but they can serve as resource persons for civilian-headed ops. Their duty identifiers are strictly expeditionary operations designations. Last edited by zuludelta; 02-10-2010 at 04:02 PM.. |
02-10-2010, 04:41 PM | #892 |
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They do similar things (as far as HUMINT collection), but the Special Activities Task Force can conduct covert and clandestine operations, while the Joint Special Task Force's S2 personnel are only authorised to conduct clandestine operations.
--- They have no real mandate stateside (don't forget the Posse Comitatus Act) except on military installations but they can serve as resource persons for civilian-headed ops. Their duty identifiers are strictly expeditionary operations designations. Thanks for all of the awesome explanations, BTW. |
02-10-2010, 04:53 PM | #893 |
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CIA core collectors such as the ones I've placed in the SATF are a bit different (they don't normally deploy alongside combat arms personnel). They're often embedded in foreign (and often hostile) territory, and either collect intelligence themselves or manage local agents to do their collection for them. In "pop" terms, the core collectors are the ones that do the super-secret spy stuff we've come to associate with the notion of intelligence agent. |
02-10-2010, 05:01 PM | #894 |
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02-10-2010, 05:10 PM | #895 |
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Forgot to explain this :P. The law enforcement guys serve as garrison security (I've yet to add the appendix that details where the GIJOE agency is stationed... I'm not finished making the Fort Wadsworth diagrams) and a deployable protective services detail (fancy-speak for "bodyguards") for selected personnel/officers.
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02-10-2010, 05:12 PM | #896 |
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02-10-2010, 10:17 PM | #897 |
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Hey Zulu, the copies I printed came out beautifully on the work colour printer. I've made my way through the Support and Directors Office staff filecards. Direct Action is next. I'm reading them like I do Troy's stories..carefully digesting every word
I really like some of the changes you've made. They make alot of sense. Just a question though, I know that SF places alot of emphasis on education, language proficiency etc, is a Joe without any formal tertiary qualifications possible? |
02-10-2010, 10:44 PM | #898 |
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That's something I struggled with... I liked the idea of there being Joes with only high school education (I believe it's somewhat presumptuous to think that college is "for everybody" and that it's a prerequisite for success in the real-world), but looking at the requirements for entry into the more advanced/elite units in law enforcement and in the military, it seems that while not an across-the-board necessity, a minimum of two years of university/college (or an associate's degree) is a "nice to have" qualification, so I put the Joe minimum at that, since I'm trying to model the Joe team after real world organisations. |
02-11-2010, 12:43 AM | #899 |
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Just banged these out in between writing the Joe filecards:
Zartan, Zarana, Zandar Design notes:
Thanks for looking! |
02-11-2010, 12:45 AM | #900 |
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Yeah, Pink really works great for Zarana.
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