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01-16-2012, 03:01 PM | #2031 |
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It would make sense if we're talking about a small group of people, say 30-40, being brought together for a limited amount of time to cap the length of service to 3 years. So, you start with the 1st 3 waves of Joes, who get replaced by the next 3 and so on. Seems like this has come up before...
Also, you may have to limit who makes the final cut. I'd eliminate Keel Haul, Payload, Hardtop, and some others. |
01-16-2012, 03:30 PM | #2032 |
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While a JTF exists for as long as the mission requires its existence (so the JTF can exist for up to several years), most JTF assignments likely last anywhere from 6 to 18 months.
For instance, the Bahrain-based multinational Task Force 151 that conducts counter-piracy operations off the Horn of Africa has a USMC Scout Sniper platoon ("detached" from the 2/6 Marines) as one of its components. It might happen that a scout sniper platoon is a required component of the task force as outlined in the mission plan, but the individuals making up the platoon are subject to the same personnel movements and administrative considerations (such as the ones that govern how long a serviceman can be deployed continuously overseas for example) that affect their peers elsewhere, and the platoon itself can and will be periodically rotated out to be replaced by another scout sniper platoon, either from the same contributing regiment, or a different regiment. Quote:
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Never really liked the "team of 'officially dead' people" angle that IDW's Joe comics pursued. It's a unique and interesting take, mind you, just not my thing as far as Joes are concerned. Last edited by zuludelta; 01-16-2012 at 03:43 PM.. Reason: edited for clarity |
01-16-2012, 03:33 PM | #2033 |
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To me having them be "officially dead" means that there's a secret reason this group exists. What makes the Joes different from Delta or DevGRU? Why do these people have to be "dead"?
What is the IDW (and ARAH Marvel actually) mission actually supposed to be?
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01-16-2012, 03:35 PM | #2034 |
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I'd say 18 months would be a more reasonable cap, with provisions for extending for another 6 months and a return in the future of course always being open.
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01-16-2012, 03:36 PM | #2035 |
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Zombie fad tie-in?
Seriously though, having a person be "officially dead" is a more troublesome cover to maintain than to just, say, give them an official cover as a military attaché or DoD liaison. The "'I am dead' cover" is one those things that sound "cool" and all espionage-y in fiction, but isn't really all that practical in real life. Last edited by zuludelta; 01-16-2012 at 04:01 PM.. |
01-16-2012, 05:29 PM | #2036 |
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Zombie fad tie-in?
Seriously though, having a person be "officially dead" is a more troublesome cover to maintain than to just, say, give them an official cover as a military attaché or DoD liaison. The "'I am dead' cover" is one those things that sound "cool" and all espionage-y in fiction, but isn't really all that practical in real life. It's never been explained why this organization exists. IDW's Joeverse is huge and really directionless prior to discovering Cobra. Back in the 80s, G.I. Joe was really a fictional Delta Force. Nowadays the knowledge of the SEaLs, Deltas, Spec ops is so much greater then it was back then. Why does G.I. Joe exist in a world with Delta and DevGru?
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01-17-2012, 12:27 AM | #2037 |
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I don't think they can, Troy. The only logical way for them to exist is if there weren't those 2 groups. Somehow, in a fictional 1980 or so, Delta and DEVGRU weren't formed, and G.I. Joe was. It seems like this goes back to the RDF idea Zulu had. And, I'm not fond of the whole "dead" concept IDW's using. I gave up on the main title and am reading the Marvel continuation.
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01-17-2012, 03:26 AM | #2038 |
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At some point though, Hama backed away from the concept that GI Joe was the Marvel/Hama Joeverse's version of Delta Force: in GI Joe: Special Missions #2, the Mossad agent Ibraham Efrati encounters Recondo, Clutch, Dial-Tone, and Roadblock on a mission in Brazil and deduces that they're members of the GI Joe team, saying that they're "too scruffy to be Delta," thus giving an indication that GI Joe and Delta Force co-exist in the Marvel/Hama Joeverse. |
01-17-2012, 09:18 AM | #2039 |
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Yeah, and that kind of invalidates the reason for the Joe's existence. What purpose do they serve if there is a delta?
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01-17-2012, 09:40 AM | #2040 |
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Joint Improvised Explosive Device Defeat Organization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Tasked with the collection and analysis of captured Cobra and MARS technology? The initial Joes were all multi disciplined and a few (Grand Slam, Flash) did hitches at the Aberdeen Proving Grounds. Also of the 13, quite a few were from Technical and Combat Engineer backgrounds (Breaker, Short Fuze, Zap, later Grunt) The inclusion of Lab Rat, Brainstorm and the Fobbits in the IDW verse seem to add to this IMHO. Might explain a CO from a Fires and Manuevres background as well. It's just that along the way, their mission changed from simple Collection and Exploitation to limited direct action and eventually becoming the "go-to" unit for all US missions Cobra related. Last edited by Tyroc; 01-17-2012 at 09:46 AM.. |
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