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01-10-2010, 07:17 AM | #21 |
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I don't know why software is even an issue, you can get anything from torrents. Just buy the software later once you've made money on your project if you feel guilty about it.
Anyway, I hope you go somewhere with this, I'm getting depressed being happy seeing these kind of topics and then miserable when everyone forgets about them. |
01-10-2010, 08:23 AM | #22 |
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I don't know why software is even an issue, you can get anything from torrents. Just buy the software later once you've made money on your project if you feel guilty about it.
Anyway, I hope you go somewhere with this, I'm getting depressed being happy seeing these kind of topics and then miserable when everyone forgets about them. |
01-10-2010, 12:25 PM | #23 |
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Something to keep in mind is once you have gone through the process of making your prototype via Cad drawing and Rapid Prototype Printing, you still need to send it off to be tooled for production like the big companies do over in China. An example of 25th figure tooling and set number or production runs (in the thousnds copies), you are looking at $20,000 dollars.
However, if you are only looking ot produce one to 100 copies, then the silicon molds and casting in resin is the better opption. Your cost factor is less than $100 dollars. Plus there are already a few companies that would take your sculpt and make the mold and cast it for a price like Trigate Creations. You would have to have the part already printed out and shipped to them for molding and casting. Now while I was doing some surfing on the web, I came accross a video (don't have the link) of McFarline toys showing the process of how they produce a figure using 3D scanning and printing our the parts. Those parts are not the finial stage, but a part of the process, a sculptor is still needed to tweek the parts using wax or appoxie sculpt. Once everything is done, they make silicon molds of the parts and cast a few copies in resin. At this point some become paint masters to be used for marketing photos, while the rest is sent oversees to their production factory. I looked into this myself. As one of the sculptors for Trigate, I was very interested to see what it would take to scan in our parts using a table top 3D scanner and maybe tweek it in a program like Zbrush to get even more details into our sculpts. I was dissappointed in how much detail was lossed in the sample piece we had sent off. We would have to bring in a 3D modeler. For us, it is better to sculpt the pieces in wax or appoxie sculpt and mold the parts in silicon. I love to see this go somewhere too. I have for the longest time seen some great works over at the Zbrush forums and what talented folks can do with that program (Gears of War models for example). A lot of designers could bennifit from this if there is a way to do this at a reasonal price. |
01-10-2010, 01:18 PM | #24 |
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01-10-2010, 06:47 PM | #25 |
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Something to keep in mind is once you have gone through the process of making your prototype via Cad drawing and Rapid Prototype Printing, you still need to send it off to be tooled for production like the big companies do over in China. An example of 25th figure tooling and set number or production runs (in the thousnds copies), you are looking at $20,000 dollars.
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However, if you are only looking ot produce one to 100 copies, then the silicon molds and casting in resin is the better opption. Your cost factor is less than $100 dollars. Plus there are already a few companies that would take your sculpt and make the mold and cast it for a price like Trigate Creations. You would have to have the part already printed out and shipped to them for molding and casting.
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I looked into this myself. As one of the sculptors for Trigate, I was very interested to see what it would take to scan in our parts using a table top 3D scanner and maybe tweek it in a program like Zbrush to get even more details into our sculpts. I was dissappointed in how much detail was lossed in the sample piece we had sent off. We would have to bring in a 3D modeler. For us, it is better to sculpt the pieces in wax or appoxie sculpt and mold the parts in silicon.
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01-10-2010, 06:49 PM | #26 |
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Can't promise anything, but if it falls through, I can always give a detailed post-mortem of "what went wrong." Better than just forgetting the whole thing, at least
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01-10-2010, 07:23 PM | #27 |
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If you can get the part printed using the cad method, you can send it to us for molding and casting. Contact our e-mail over at our website for a price quote.
As for the aluminum molds go, we were only looking at those when we were planing to get an injection machine, but did not happen so we did not persue it further. We might look into again though. "See, I'm in the opposite situation. I know at least one professional 3D modeler who's well-versed in Maya and 3DSMax (and I've sort of dabbled in CAD myself), so going the digital sculpt route is probably the more reasonable option." Do me a favor and ask the person if they also know Zbrush. From what I have seen in the galleries, the amount of detail achieved with that program is the best. |
01-10-2010, 11:09 PM | #28 |
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"I have a belly button", that quote was funny after all that computer mumbo jumbo the guy said before him.
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01-11-2010, 12:52 AM | #29 |
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I was looking a 3d printing for the home hobbyist. The cheapest printer is MakerBot Industries - Robots That Make Things.. It starts at $750. It's really a hobbyist machine and not really a tool. Open source and for the truly fearless. If you like fidling with tools this is it. The output quality is mixed bag. What is truly unique about makerbot is it prints in abs plastics. Legos and joes are made from this. The printhead extrudes a fine filament of plastic like spider thread and builds it up. Check out the salt and pepper shaker video.
For a complete solution the Desktop Factory: 3D Printers costs $5000. This is more professional. Like an easybake oven for your desk. The output quality looks poor in my estimation. It prints a powdered plastic. I'm unsure of the strength and quality of the plastic. Don't forget you'll need a 3d laser scanner to copy existing parts. $3000. https://www.nextengine.com/indexSecure.htm This is all considered inexpensive by todays standard. I checked this technology out 2 years ago and I'm disappointed that not much has advanced for the home user. I really want to build my own toys. |
01-11-2010, 01:06 AM | #30 |
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He also said that at his work they will buy stock models that are close to what they want or download free ones and then just detail them for faster turnover time. |
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