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12-10-2009, 04:35 PM | #21 |
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I like the concept. Who is a "good guy" and who is a "bad guy" comes down to one's perspective. Bad guys never beleive they're the bad guys.
I could definitely see if Hawk is the leader of the underground, Cobra, a lot of the original Joes, like Scarlett, Snake-Eyes, and Stalker, if they wanted to stay in the fight would stand beside him. I could also see the younger newer Joes buying into the fame and fortune aspect of the new Joe team. Barrell Roll, Hacker, Cross Hair, Bombstrike, Mayday, Tracker, etc... could be the new team led by an ex-Cobra like Firefly (since he seemed the most motivated by money.) and partially funded by Tomax & Xamot and Extensive Enterprises.
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12-10-2009, 04:39 PM | #22 |
#voteblackjack
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I still don't see why the good guys, who (it seems) were old Joes, would adopt the Cobra name since it was synomous with terrorism.
Wouldn't they come up with a new name that more reflects what they stand for?
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12-10-2009, 04:49 PM | #23 |
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Maybe Cobra's new leader has a twisted sense of humor?
Maybe if Hawk is Cobra's leader, he keeps the name Cobra to intimidate the new Joes? Maybe it has a new meaning? Corporate Opposition B - ? Revolutionary Army
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12-10-2009, 04:49 PM | #24 |
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Because I like Cobra? I only collect Cobra and in fact would Join Cobra if they existed?
Its called a Mirrorverse. where things have changed , its like Spock with a Goatee. Bad guys are good guys and good guys bad guys, its not a difficult concept to get on board with. I think in the current political climate a force like GI joe would be a an oppression tool, and very Gestapo. I like The Idea of Cobra really being the good guys but the Media paints them as Terrorists, remember by our standards the founding fathers of this country were Terrorists and Rebels. If you cant grasp it its cool, move on and let is have our fun with it.
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12-10-2009, 04:52 PM | #25 |
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I see them taking the name Cobra to remind everyone what they used to be and where they are forced to be now, how now they are the oppressed, the underground. its like Jane in Firefly saying... "lets go be the badguys"..
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12-10-2009, 04:54 PM | #26 |
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ok so here is the deal, this is not a contest , just something for fun.
Im working on a personal project that is an alternate universe For the Joes, In this world the Gi Joe team acts as a enforcement agency for bloated corporations and Totalitarian world spanning governments, (the decision to take the real "american" hero aspect out of the ROC movie prompted this.) Cobra plays the part of an International Underground group of freedom fighters trying to topple the world government and return the world to freedom. ( if thats even possible at this point). So thats the Idea, make Joe baddies and Cobra heroes. they can be Cobra versions of Joe characters , or vice versa, I envision the Joes using super high tech equipment and Cobra using what ever they can build find or steal. Go wild with this! Funny, because this is how I always viewed Joe & Cobra in my eyes.
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12-10-2009, 04:54 PM | #27 |
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this sounds fun, kind of like the premise of Small Soldiers. The "good guys" were the enemy. It's all about perspective. Wish i had time to do something for this.
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12-10-2009, 04:54 PM | #28 |
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I like this idea a lot! Hopefully I'll have something to submit
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12-10-2009, 04:58 PM | #29 |
#voteblackjack
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I'm trying to join in. Just need this stuff answered for me to get my head around the concept.
I can see the Joes becoming more government controled and then corporate controled as the years go by and the politics of the nation and the world change. I can see the new Corporate-Governments using the G.I. Joe name (which would have connections to "good", since the public at large would recognize the name as an anti-terrorist unit). It's a good public relations move. The Government-Corporations use 'em as a "gestapo" (not sure how you're making the connection with the international Joe force being a gestapo, but that's another discussion) force but they keep the "good" name because it's easier to spin and the greater majority of the public would accept it easier as good (and because the great majority of the public wouldn't have encounters with the harsher aspects of the new Joe unit). Can see the older Joes not liking what is going on and becoming an underground force. Because, in essence, they are still doing what they always have, fighting the foes of freedom. Which is why I'm having a hard time understanding the use of the Cobra name. Cobra would have a negative impact in the minds of the general public and any group trying to do good wouldn't want to associate with the automatic negative feelings the name would inspire. Now, if you generally speaking just want to create a mirror where the Joe name is bad and the Cobra name is evil, just start from scratch. Neither group has ever existed. Brand new universe and in this universe the Corporate-Governments have created a gestapo force called G.I. Joe and the underground rebels called themselves Cobra.
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12-10-2009, 05:04 PM | #30 |
Rick Hunter
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Very nice idea
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