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09-10-2021, 10:47 AM | #171 |
Crimson Guard
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Hey, HHFF!
How are you dealing with paint rub on these Stalker bodies? I’m finding the backs of the knee joints to be particularly troublesome on these and I’m embarrassed to say that I trimmed away enough on one knee that I actually snapped the joint on it. What’s your secret?
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09-11-2021, 04:49 AM | #172 |
Iron Grenadier
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HHFF,
Oh man! That Stalker-Cobra looks awesome!! I would buy multiples of that Cobra Trooper/Officer if they just used the Stalker body. I don't even mind the ribbed sweater look. As mentioned in earlier posts, I'm actually OK with the Cobra Trooper torso and upper arms, but the fore arms and legs look like a Fortnite character to me. I think swapping the waist/legs and fore arms with Stalker would make a nice, unique Cobra Trooper. The fore arms would need some sanding and/or filler to match the upper arms, but it would be a way better looking action figure. Jason Quote:
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Hey, HHFF!
How are you dealing with paint rub on these Stalker bodies? I’m finding the backs of the knee joints to be particularly troublesome on these and I’m embarrassed to say that I trimmed away enough on one knee that I actually snapped the joint on it. What’s your secret? My paint rub fix is to shave down the joint piece round parts, using an exacto knife to carefully cut a thin fairly uniform thickness off the joint ring piece's outer radius. It's very difficult to do, and have used each joint to try and improve the technique. All the limbs are taken apart as is possible by warming and popping (unfortunate that this can't be done at the knees). The each joint ring is moved to its farthest point one way (as far as it will go, and then even a little more). To avoid cutting into parts on each side of the joint ring, I've cutting down at small lengths and at an angle--whichever angle and location that the joint ring raised higher than the side pieces first because they're easier. Then I'll get to the other parts, and try to keep the cut thickness even and rounded (like what you do when cutting fingernails). I'll keep doing this until is roughly rounded, then sand the piece down with varying grit levels, coarse to rough, rubbing in different angles until cut edges are gone. Last step is too finish with hard rubbing with felt, which can result in surface almost identical to the joints original. The cut thickness is then verified visually by bending the joint back, and seeing if there is at least a sliver of gap between the joint ring and the limb piece. If no sliver, I'll do the process all over again. When one side of the joint is finished, I'll rotate the joint ring to the opposite end and do the same process. At most of the arm joints, you almost get access to the entire ring's diameter. The legs are somewhat similar, though access to the knee's ring surface is more difficult. The double ring in the back knee is also a little weird to work around (is this where you snapped yours?). I guess the trick here is to follow the surface shape, shaving down the surface evenly in short bits, and being patient and doing multiple thin shaves. The plastic on these joint rings is much softer than that of the previous modern figures, so it cuts/slices a lot easier and knife control becomes very important. Also important to know that I use a large standalone magnifying glass--and don't know if I could do this work without it. I hope this all helped. Feel free to ask more specific questions if needed, or even pics. |
09-12-2021, 01:26 AM | #173 |
Crimson Guard
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The custom came out very good, excellent work as always of course.
The commando style sweater effect seems too dated and not really frontline infantry to wear, it looks odd. Probably one of the same issues by using the generic modern combat shirt POC Cobra Trooper buck was the lack of the WWII military Fascist style uniform with collar & respective collar patches. But from what I remember of the original of Cobra Soldier , it didn't have special collar like the Cobra Officer did. Hasbro just have trouble making a Cobra and Officer separate molds like they once did. The 2017 SDCC HQ release was atleast an attempt to use some different leg parts to differentiate them. |
09-17-2021, 01:52 AM | #174 |
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The custom came out very good, excellent work as always of course.
The commando style sweater effect seems too dated and not really frontline infantry to wear, it looks odd. Probably one of the same issues by using the generic modern combat shirt POC Cobra Trooper buck was the lack of the WWII military Fascist style uniform with collar & respective collar patches. |
09-17-2021, 03:19 AM | #175 |
Crimson Guard
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Am talking specifically with regards about Cobra. They wore European Fascist/Nazi style uniforms.
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09-17-2021, 06:16 PM | #176 |
Great White Northerner
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And I'm pointing out that the U.S. Army (and most of the other militaries of the world) also wore "European Fascist/Nazi style uniforms" by that metric. Heck, by the same token, U.S. field uniforms from about 1944 to approximately 2003 are also "Fascist" because they have the same general cut and layout as the standard German WWII Feldbluse outfit (and let's not even get started on the "Fritz" helmet or how ERDL/M81 Woodland is ultimately derivative of late-war German Liebermuster camo).
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09-17-2021, 07:34 PM | #177 |
Iron Grenadier
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So whose uniform are we looking at above? I'm not familiar with or too into WWII or Vietnam uniforms, but I'll take the knowledge.
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09-17-2021, 09:35 PM | #178 |
Crimson Guard
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That’s a US uniform from World War One.
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09-18-2021, 03:59 AM | #179 |
Crimson Guard
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But not really sure what your issue is or what pointing out or why the history trip. The uniforms of the American GI's in the 1980's to present are not the same as Cobra .
A point of fact the USA does use the Fasces and a lot of other Roman and even esoteric/occult symbolism that the Fascists and Nazis also used and even fictional Cobra. But I like said, was talking about Cobra's uniform style/inspiration, not that every European style military dress collar from WWII is Fascist or whatever the case,lol. |
09-18-2021, 07:25 AM | #180 |
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Thanks Rob. Credit Jdub for that gem of an 80s ref. I love 80s pop and new wave, but that song--one I'm slightly embarassed these days to have loved back then. That and Puttin' on the Ritz...
Thanks Abe. The updated ladies were really a pain to do though. Getting into the torso of that Scarlett figure is...not unpainful.. Shock Trooper was an extremely great figure, a shining example of the POC era. But it lacks any visual elements or nods to the classic designs. I do keep one on display, but he really has no place in the main Cobra Shelf display, and not in the O13 set. I think my end stance is to not pass up the figure if you've got a chance to pick one (or two) up. It's a fun figure, and it's a basic OG Cobra Trooper. You can do things with this figure that you can't with the two primary previous modern ones. You also get a great card, alternative classic style webgear and rifle, maybe a new useable head if you fancy. Thanks also for the deep critique of the new figure's sculpt. I had to cut that chapter short, but I also think most people see readily see the sculpt deficiencies. It's nice though to have them listed, and I hope my photos helped. I will note again, the 30th/DG figures are a pain to get standing nice and straight, and to stand without foot stands or magnets. That's the figure's biggest drawback (and not a small one at that). Don't know why they couldn't have sculpted the foot sole nice and flat... I'm glad you like the paint bits I did, though I wasn't expecting those bits to really add or sell the figure more. I was just bothered by the extra parts over the body suit being the exact same blue hue as the body suit. At the same time, I didn't want to spotlight those non-blue parts. An intial pass had a lot of tiny details and parts painted red and silver, but I though it looked to busy, and opted for simply a red small bit on the arm braces and thigh thingee. The sculpt is not good. At least when compared to the modern Joe era sculpting. You believe it's the plastic used, I think it's just the proportions and the tight body suit. The piping all over the pass may have looked good on paper, but doesn't suit [sic] the Cobra Trooper. I think that's why the original 25th looks better sculptwise than the new Retro figure. I'm not gonna army build this figure or replace my POC style O13. He doesn't look right standing next to other modern Joe figures on a Hebime style display (unless surrounded by a ton of other figures). He probably wouldn't look right new to the new Stalker and Grunt (vastly upgraded sculpts with all the new articulation fun). And a shelf full of these (and/or new Officers and FANG pilots) would likely magnfify the sculpt deficiencies. But I've got this figure lying around to play and pose. I'll probably bring him to work eventually to have at my desk without really worrying about people messing with him or stealing. For tweaking, I've got two or three little concept ideas at the moment that I'll mess with in the near future. One I can tell you all is that I want to see a painted blue with maybe some black wash makes him look less cheap. Last thing: you mention a leg swap with Stalker. please see thread linked below, and the issues with that (and a tough fix for that). Basically, you'll want to swap out the waist and below of the lower torso to fit the legs: https://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-j...ml#post5419050 20210618_022401 by HissHissFangFang, on Flickr Below, left figure has waist piece of Staker swapped onto Trooper torso: 2021-06-19_04-53-51 by HissHissFangFang, on Flickr |
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