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12-15-2010, 01:35 PM | #571 |
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That's not baiting. That's a yes or no question. Either you do or don't. There's nothing to argue about.
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12-15-2010, 01:43 PM | #572 |
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G.I. Joe Renegades is.....oh wait, wrong thread.
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12-15-2010, 01:47 PM | #573 |
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12-15-2010, 02:31 PM | #574 |
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Wow another "them vs them" thread. They say that to take care of a problem you have to take out the root cause. Okay how about I do the following:
By the way just joking with everything said above..actually I had an epiphany; I'm not. Don't even bother PM'ing me I'm tired of the stupid finger pointing and middle school drama. Don't care who started it. The whole "man up and shut up" thing apparently does not work, and anyone who thinks otherwise should ask themselves why the drama continues. |
12-15-2010, 02:49 PM | #575 |
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Renegades needs more realistic action - Hasbro take note of this thread : )
Back to topic?? I am happy to see new GI Joe.....I am unhappy that Hasbro still doesn't have a clue. This next statement is for all "re-imagining" of GI Joe. Don't fix it if it's not broken. The 12 Inch Joes Ruled the 70's. In the 1980's ARAH using the GI Joe name was born and is the only re-imagined GI Joe product that was hugely successful. In the late 80's and 90's they tried to re-imagine it yet again with Tiger Force, Python Patrol, Star Brigade, Mega Marines and the like.....Joe faded. Then came Sgt Savage and Extreme....fail. Then came GVC and VVV that were both successful for a time but had little staying paying. A few other tweaks to save the day...fail. 25th line and Resolute = very successful but killed off in favor of ROC which again was successful but had no staying power. POC more successful because of it's throw backs to the original versions. Renegades, new movie I am sure will be successful but will not have staying power. I am sure that Hasbro firmly believes that they need to change to grow. But they do not understand a simple thing that their own history shows to me... Articualtion, Packaging, and costume redesign = awesome and acceptable Re-Imagining of characters overall image, sex, race, attitude, style (The character's "character and identifying features") = less acceptable and not so awesome. My opinion - but it seems pretty well grounded to me.
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12-15-2010, 02:56 PM | #576 |
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The Battle Rangers assortments for 1995 which were canceled, felt more like GI Joe. |
12-15-2010, 03:00 PM | #577 |
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The Joes from that era didn't come off as re-imagined to me but GI Joe trying to fit in other toylines' shoes. Ninja Turtles are popular? Okay Ninja Force. Bright colors and monsters and shit on TV? MEGA MARINES. Bright colors, explosions in video games and games having too much gunplay? BATTLE CORPS, with tons of guns per figure!
The Battle Rangers assortments for 1995 which were canceled, felt more like GI Joe. "Follow the leader" rarely, if ever, works, and even then the follow-up is even more rarely as good as the original. In trying to be others, Joe lost track of what made it unique in the first place. |
12-15-2010, 03:02 PM | #578 |
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12-15-2010, 03:03 PM | #579 |
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CTG, you make some valid arguments. I'd have to agree with you across the board - sans 'Hasbro doesn't have a clue.' that i disagree with, but not for reasons against your argument - just because I do feel that Hasbro "gets it." there is an assembly of personnel over at Hasbro that understands the fan base, but the truth is that there are business factors that come into play, which many times are calculated risks. they have to take chances.
if the fanboy fan base was enough to keep the franchise afloat, they would have stopped at the 25th concept and rode that donkey into Havana victorious. but that's not the case. they're trying to reach out to the current generation of kids. that's a smart business plan - even if fanboys can't stand the occurrence. |
12-15-2010, 03:05 PM | #580 |
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