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12-05-2010, 02:43 PM | #21 |
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Sometimes things seem like obvious stereotypes... but as you'll read below... it wasn't what WAS obvious that made him a chef... it was what WASN'T.
From Larry Hama: December 5 at 12:26pm He's not a cook, he's a chef. Somebody had to do the cooking, and he seemed the most unlikely. The race thing didn't enter into it. It seems more stereotypical to me that all the Asian characters are martial artists. but i never knew or thought of road block being a chef had to do with being black. never crossed my mind, and well said, not a cook but a chef... |
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12-05-2010, 02:45 PM | #22 |
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As I recall, Marvel Roadblock wasn't a "cook".
He was a gourmet chef. There is a difference. His complaints to the waiter in whereevertheyare right before they surprise COBRA Commander and Storm Shadow meeting Major Bludd and the Baroness (prior to COBRA Commander's capture) in the old Marvel run is one of my favorite Marvel moments. To paraphrase: "This pate is a disgrace to the cheese it shares board with. If you threw it far enough north, they'd call it liverwurst." Sunbow Roadblock also referred to himself as a "gourmet chef" in the truck with Honda Lou West. Right before he hit that. Roadblock and Honda Lou get married in my Joe-Verse.
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12-05-2010, 02:46 PM | #23 |
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double post.... I'm also eating cookies.
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12-05-2010, 02:48 PM | #24 |
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This stereotype drove me nuts when I was in the military its so stupid, and I am so glad Renegades dropped the black stereotype from the 1940's. Theres no reason why he needs to replicate CubaGoodingJr's character from Pearl Harbour. Its 2010 not 1944. Im glad he still appreciates good cooking and can be good at it but making him a mechanic potentially makes him very vital if the transport breaks down or they need something mid battle fixed. I really hope they continue exploring this character and making him more vital to the team.
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12-05-2010, 02:49 PM | #25 |
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Damn UM, you're getting crucified on here for saying you actually LIKE something about a character. This place is so ass backwards.
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12-05-2010, 02:50 PM | #26 |
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As I recall, Marvel Roadblock wasn't a "cook".
He was a gourmet chef. There is a difference. His complaints to the waiter in whereevertheyare right before they surprise COBRA Commander and Storm Shadow meeting Major Bludd and the Baroness (prior to COBRA Commander's capture) in the old Marvel run is one of my favorite Marvel moments. To paraphrase: "This pate is a disgrace to the cheese it shares board with. If you threw it far enough north, they'd call it liverwurst." Sunbow Roadblock also referred to himself as a "gourmet chef" in the truck with Honda Lou West. Right before he hit that. Roadblock and Honda Lou get married in my Joe-Verse. |
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12-05-2010, 02:51 PM | #27 |
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I think GiJoe had a lot of positive influences on kids as far as quelling racist feelings towards members of the opposite nationality. GiJoe made it cool for ignorant white kids to play with Roadblock, Heavy Duty,Stalker, and Alpine, etc these guys kicked ass , and were fun characters. Gijoe was American in the sense the toys were a melting pot of nationalitys just like this great country. I wouldnt expect Larry Hamma to make the decision based of racist thoughts or stereotypes. Coincidence or not though Im glad Renegades is moving past it. As far as the Asians in ARAH wasnt Tunnel Rat Asian? He wasnt a martial artist as far as I know..and I dont know why he would make that point when the most well known Ninja, SE's is a blond haired blue eyed American.
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12-05-2010, 02:52 PM | #29 |
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I like how ARAH had fun with characters and didn't avoid stereotypes. I like the mystic indian, and the kung fu asians, and the BBQ cook black guys, and the drug dealing white guys...well that last one is a stretch, but you get my point.
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12-05-2010, 03:17 PM | #30 |
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I hear ya, I did too. It was awesome (and still is). All he is saying though is he likes how its not RB's main focus this time around. Its cool to get a different take on a loved character.
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