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11-07-2009, 09:36 PM | #1 |
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So some people associate Warren Ellis with Postmodernism. Does anyone see anything in the Resolute toon which screams Postmodernism?
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11-19-2009, 08:22 AM | #2 |
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Screams it? No, but there are slight elements of it to be found.
Primarily the "darker" tone and more serious nature of the threat, with Cobra's operatives being presented as genuinely murderous individuals instead of buffoonish incompetents. I wouldn't classify the entire work as "post modern" but it's got some tinges, at least compared to previous incarnations of G.I. Joe. Still, just because a writer might be associated with a certain artistic/philosophical movement doesn't mean he has to incorporate aspects of it in every single work he writes. Ellis' "mainstream" stuff is far more "light" (in terms of being laden with post modern philosophy) than his original works and creator-owned stuff. Compare say, Resolute to Transmetropolitan and you'll find two very different works. |
11-19-2009, 08:28 AM | #3 |
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Holy crap. I just found out Ellis scripted Resolute, awesome.
It's like finding-out Shakira did voice-overs for the Superman cartoons, makes me kinda hot |
11-19-2009, 08:56 AM | #4 |
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What's going to be really hysterical now is watching many members of this board scramble to try to figure out what "post modern" means.
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11-19-2009, 09:18 AM | #5 |
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How about the scene where Duke and Scarlett are in the middle of a room, with no cover, surrounded by, like, 15 guys with machine guns, and they only have handguns, but they take out all the Cobras without being hit themselves? Yeah, that was pretty post-modern, right?
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11-19-2009, 09:38 AM | #6 |
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Post-modern is when you ship something after the post office raises prices
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11-19-2009, 02:56 PM | #7 |
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No, not really. There's a fine line separating Postmodern comics and writing obscurely for novelty's sake (what some people call the "mad ideas" school of comics writing), and in 14 years or so of reading Ellis' work, I find that he frequently and readily crosses that line (to his credit though, much of the end result is usually entertaining, if nothing else). The writing in Resolute, however, is neither of the two. I think it's an example of competent, if unremarkable and somewhat generic, work-for-hire material. Nothing wrong with that, of course. To be totally honest though, I've become totally underwhelmed by the plotting and dialogue in Resolute after repeated viewings, especially in light of Ellis' prior comics work. Granted, he (or any writer, for that matter) is not immune from "by-the-numbers" writing syndrome... and sometimes, that approach is what's required, especially when it comes to licensed properties, so it's all okay, I guess.
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11-19-2009, 04:15 PM | #8 |
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No, not really. There's a fine line separating Postmodern comics and writing obscurely for novelty's sake (what some people call the "mad ideas" school of comics writing), and in 14 years or so of reading Ellis' work, I find that he frequently and readily crosses that line (to his credit though, much of the end result is usually entertaining, if nothing else). The writing in Resolute, however, is neither of the two. I think it's an example of competent, if unremarkable and somewhat generic, work-for-hire material. Nothing wrong with that, of course. To be totally honest though, I've become totally underwhelmed by the plotting and dialogue in Resolute after repeated viewings, especially in light of Ellis' prior comics work. Granted, he (or any writer, for that matter) is not immune from "by-the-numbers" writing syndrome... and sometimes, that approach is what's required, especially when it comes to licensed properties, so it's all okay, I guess.
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11-19-2009, 04:18 PM | #9 |
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11-19-2009, 04:28 PM | #10 |
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I think everyone that loved the script and writing of Resolute needs to go out and buy and read Warren Ellis' novel: Crooked Little Vein.
You'll love it.
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