[DarkLordMordred]

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Originally Posted by CADPAT

Can't really think of anyone I'd actually want killed off other than some recent and rather obnoxious "gimmick" characters like Helix and Dawn Moreno. Hell, I was kind of pissed when Raptor died...

Dawn Moreno was better before they put Snake Eyes's memories in her brain. She had potential.

Helix is just terrible.

[CADPAT]

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Originally Posted by Cobra Agent 66

Snake Eyes should have died around 89. Give him his final figure then off him in the Marvel comic, and never bring him back.

But let's be realistic... ;^)

[THEDARKONE508]

FMK?

Kill snake eyes. always.

[wmichben]

Wild Bill. Can't stand him. I blame Sunbow for that and I wish I could head-canon my way out of disliking him but I just can't do it.

[CADPAT]

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Originally Posted by DarkLordMordred

Dawn Moreno was better before they put Snake Eyes's memories in her brain. She had potential.

Helix is just terrible.

Fair.

[SnowCat]

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Originally Posted by cardensb

For cobras, I hated when some from the freighter entrapment somehow survived like firefly.

I think the mistake there was Hama never should have put Firefly or Zartan in the freighter in the first place. He left himself with almost no "named" villains, only troop builders, which meant way too much of Zarana and Road Pig.

Hama was never smart about how he used Firefly.

Especially after SS defected, guys like Firefly needed to be major threats. Instead, Hama was content to let them fade into the background, or outright get rid of them, much to the comics detriment. Imagine how much better the comics of 87-91 would be with a Cobra operative who was a legitimate threat, not a ninja and who would stay a villain.

[JoeArashikage]

I find this thread inexplicably depressing.

[Ratel]

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Originally Posted by Sean_C

Cobra Commander should've stayed dead in the comics. Point blank range, no sleeping phoenix ability. No no-prizing your artist's depiction, either, Larry.

Really, a Joe needed to die in the Borovian failed mission on the gulag, to send that story home. I nominate Snow Job.

Scarlett's bullet to her head should've ended her. Then Snake-Eyes could go after the Baroness or she'd die as a result of his vendetta (not by SE's hands because he's still a "hero") , putting firmly Destro back in the villain camp forever.

Hawk dying from his wounds in Borovia...yeah...do it. New Joe leadership shake-up.


Darklon never should've been "killed" the first time.

El Jefe needed to eat a few hundred bullets.

I agree about the Commander's death since the way Fred VI shot him. Even if there was no blood, which there should have been or red mist, Fred's bullet went through his back and chest. There should have been flesh, blood, lung, and heart parts all over the place.

[DarkLordMordred]

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Originally Posted by SnowCat

I think the mistake there was Hama never should have put Firefly or Zartan in the freighter in the first place. He left himself with almost no "named" villains, only troop builders, which meant way too much of Zarana and Road Pig.

Hama was never smart about how he used Firefly.

Especially after SS defected, guys like Firefly needed to be major threats. Instead, Hama was content to let them fade into the background, or outright get rid of them, much to the comics detriment. Imagine how much better the comics of 87-91 would be with a Cobra operative who was a legitimate threat, not a ninja and who would stay a villain.

I have a feeling that Hama was also influenced by Hasbro in what to do and not to do. They probably wanted him to push newer characters. It took them 8 years to release another version of Firefly. Hasbro just didn't understand how popular he was with us kids.

[SnowCat]

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Originally Posted by DarkLordMordred

I have a feeling that Hama was also influenced by Hasbro in what to do and not to do. They probably wanted him to push newer characters. It took them 8 years to release another version of Firefly. Hasbro just didn't understand how popular he was with us kids.

I think that's true to some extent, though other characters played a major role for years with out a 2nd figure. (Scerlett didn't get a 2nd figure for 10 years). Even aside from the lack of use Firefly got through the whole run, Hama really should have realized he was going to need more named Cobras and been a bit less quick to dump so many in the freighter.