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06-07-2020, 10:20 AM | #1 |
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Was the intro with Duke front and center and line, “Cobra and Destro” in the theme song really only used originally for the MASS Device opening?
I’m nearly done with a re-watch of the series using the Shout Factory DVD set. I grew up with a bunch of GI Joe VHS tapes (mostly season 1) and the intros mostly had Duke front and center with the “Cobra and Destro” line in the theme music. However I finished season 1 and pretty much all the openings have Flint front and center with the “Cobra the Enemy” line instead. I was wondering if the right intros were used with the corresponding episodes in the Shout Factory DVD release? I know Shout typically tries to preserve things as closely as possible to how they were originally shown (showing the PSAs only as extras notwithstanding). As best as I can figure maybe the VHS tapes used the incorrect intros for unknown reasons. Maybe they felt it was more iconic or something. I actually much prefer the Duke intro. Watching “Countdown for Zartan” with the Flint opening just seems wrong. |
06-07-2020, 10:33 AM | #2 |
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On TubiTV and Hasbro's Youtube channel, Cobra and Destro is the intro only for the MASS Device episodes.
I can't swear that is how it was when the show aired in the 80s, but I think it was. I didn't even remember the Cobra and Destro intro until I started rewatching the episodes as an adult.
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06-07-2020, 10:52 AM | #3 |
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On TubiTV and Hasbro's Youtube channel, Cobra and Destro is the intro only for the MASS Device episodes.
I can't swear that is how it was when the show aired in the 80s, but I think it was. I didn't even remember the Cobra and Destro intro until I started rewatching the episodes as an adult. Anyway, I love the MASS Device opening |
06-07-2020, 10:58 AM | #4 |
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Duke is an interesting character. The cartoon is what made him into a main Joe (my understanding is that he is a small part of the initial comic run). But he spends all three major miniseries (Mass Device, Weather Dominator, and Pyramid of Darkness) as a prisoner, contributing very little.
I haven't done a firm count, but I think Flint is the Joe leader in more season 1 episodes than Duke. (And, again, Duke is a prisoner in several episodes outside of the main miniseries.) I like Duke because I like Scarlett, and she only shows up in Duke episodes for the most part. However, both Flint and Duke are leaps and bounds better than the new leadership in season 2 (although Flint has a bigger role in season 2 than Duke). I'd take any Flint/Lady Jaye episode over the Hawk / Sgt. Slaughter nonsense. And, of course, CC is a lot better character than Serpentor or Mindbender.
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06-07-2020, 06:05 PM | #5 |
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I seem to remember “Cobra the enemy” being the line watching them on TV in the 80’s.
I would watch it every day at 4 PM after school and I’ll never forget how excited I was to get home and watch when they were running a 5 part mini series the whole week.
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06-07-2020, 07:31 PM | #6 |
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The MASS Device is streaming "live" right now on youtube on the Hasbro channel. The Pyramid of Darkness was on before that for some reason.
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06-07-2020, 08:39 PM | #7 |
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I have the entire series recorded on VHS let me see if I still have a player around and I can check. While I am at it Maybe I'll put all the commercials on a disc.
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06-07-2020, 09:51 PM | #8 |
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The 1983 fan club newsletter promotes the heck out of Duke https://www.yojoe.com/archive/fanclu...sletter1.shtml Essentially, in Hasbro's outlook, DUKE "serpentored" Hawk. But Hawk came back. Larry Hama, writer of the comic, didn't care for Duke. He's said as such. Duke field leader role was already really filled in his mind with Stalker. It was Hama himself who talked Hasbro out of making Duke a colonel, citing Hawk was already on the team and it was too small to have two officers of that rank. A Colonel Duke really would've been a total Hawk replacement! |
06-08-2020, 12:28 AM | #9 |
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The old VHS home video F.H.E. releases probably just slapped whichever random intro on its episodes.
As for Duke being absent in season 2 is also due to the fact that his toy was phased out of the line by 1986. |
06-13-2020, 09:00 AM | #10 |
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The first miniseries is the only one to say "Cobra and Destro" in the theme song. After that it's "Cobra the enemy".
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