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10-07-2010, 08:36 PM | #1 |
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Question for those buying a lot of comics each week (assuming you have read comics for a long time)...Do you fell like today's prices ($3.99) are justified for the output?
I was told that it only costs like .25 cents to print and the majority of costs is to editors and creative teams. My argument is that the editors do not do enough job anymore (they used to talk to the reader throughout the book in the square boxes so much you knew them by name) and the writers used to put thought balloons on the characters so you could understand what the character is feeling. The lack of these items make reading a comic become to fast as just the speaking and mostly panels with no words. Maybe writers get paid by the word so they cut back on all this but reading a comic from the 80's actually takes a while as opposed to today.
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10-07-2010, 08:48 PM | #2 |
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Time reading a comic for me hasn't changed. Today's have more depth to them then 80s IMO.
But good news, both Marvel and DC have announced they are lowering prices. DC Drops Prices and co-features Marvel drops $3.99 price point
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10-07-2010, 08:59 PM | #3 |
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Time reading a comic for me hasn't changed. Today's have more depth to them then 80s IMO.
But good news, both Marvel and DC have announced they are lowering prices. DC Drops Prices and co-features Marvel drops $3.99 price point Can you cite some examples of recent titles that you would say has depth?
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10-08-2010, 09:04 PM | #4 |
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I haven't bought comics like I did in the 90s. Though, I do spend my share buying up everything with G.I. Joe, Transformers, B.T.V.S. & Angel. I trip out on guys at my shop that spend $50-$100 weekly, and that's just on $3-$5 comics. I hate when I spend $4 and a comic and 1/4 of the book is a preview for some upcoming title I could care less for. Remember, when Joe was only .60 cents? |
10-08-2010, 09:50 PM | #5 |
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Well I started reading when G.I. Joe was 60 cents, and I remember thinking 75 cents, and then $1 was crazy. But still you could walk in buy a bunch of comics and still feel not tapped out completely.
Todays prices are just crazy. I liked the upgrade from the pindot artwork and the upgrade to the slick paper, but I'd gladly do without for a reduction in price. Great example I buy my comics once a month, and all I collect is G.I. Joe and Transformers comics I was about a two weeks late picking up my books and it was $60. 13 Issues in total (granted I bought backs and bags for all 13 as well at .25 cents each) but $60 bucks? This is why I quit so many titles I mean seriously at one point years ago I used to buy the following every month... -X-Men -UnCanny X-Men -X-Force -X-Factor -Generation X -Cable -Spiderman 2099 -Hulk 2099 -Ravage 2099 -Doom 2099 -X-Nation 2099 -Punisher 2099 -Death's Head II -Warheads -Motormouth and Killpower -Green Lantern -Wildcats -Gen 13 -Stormwatch -Star Trek And all the various mini series those books sprang out. Now... -G.I. Joe (IDW-verse) -G.I. Joe (Marvel continuation-erse) -G.I. Joe Origins -Cobra -Hearts & Minds -Transformers -TF: Mini series That's pretty sad. Used to be you could at least collect all the titles you were interested in...now a days better pick one or two. |
10-08-2010, 09:57 PM | #6 |
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I spend about $80 a month on comics now, so this price drop will be a welcome thing. I have no desire to read digital comics.
As to the content being as good as decades past, on some titles yes. many independent titles give more content than ever. Even some marvel run titles like Powers has a ton of content inside, to the point the word baloons take over the page. But many of the main run comics on marvel over the last few years have had grand overall storylines that run across the course of the universe, but if you read multiple titles, it's like reading the same book over and over again just from different camera angles. The content may be there, but it's all a rehash. |
10-08-2010, 11:23 PM | #7 |
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I don't really think that word balloons = content. Too many can be wordy and not be that good.
Can have a deep comic that doesn't have much word balloons. Wolverine #2 was a very good comic. Jonathan Hickman's books are EXCELLANT. S.H.I.E.L.D. is nothing like anything else on the shelves. Hickman's Ultimate Thor #1 was a great read. I spend about $100 bucks on books a week and then whatever else I get. I've been reading since 1982 with only a 4-5 year gap around 2003-2008. The new Uncanny X-Force looks like it'll be a good book. Powers is usually a good read, although I like the original run more then the current one.
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10-08-2010, 11:25 PM | #8 |
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DC's been pretty bad for that lately, especially with anything related to Brightest Day.
There have been a couple instances of pages showing up in Brightest Day and the exact same thing happens in the character's ongoing. The recent Green Arrow #4, had half the issue being an exact copy (with different camera angles) of a scene that had happened in the previous week's Brightest Day.
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10-08-2010, 11:42 PM | #9 |
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4 dollars and bad comic books made me stop reading. I agree the 1980's were great for comics and whoever claims that today comics are better well I disagree. Just look at All star Squadron, Suicide Squad, Infinity Inc, Orginal vigilante when the reintroduce him all great and serious comics. Look at the comics now and it's just not the same.
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10-09-2010, 12:02 AM | #10 |
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Sure there is. You just have to look.
The 90s were horrible. Too many crap books. Now, there are just as many crap books as there were in the 80s, and the quality is getting away from the 90s stuff and back towards where it was before. Some are even better. Wouldn't have found S.H.I.E.L.D or Hickman's Fantastic Four in the 80s. Secret Six is just as good as Suicide Squad was. Johns JSA was just as good as Infinity, Inc and All Star Squadron. The prices are high for what they are, no doubt about that. Fraction's Iron Man is a pretty solid read. Brubaker's run on Captain America is better then the classic Gruenwald era. There's alot more books available today then there ever was, so the ratio of good to crap goes up, but I think it's the same percentages that there were back in the day. I think the biggest difference is the creator turn over. Today you don't get to establish the same feel for a book that could get in the 80s because the creators turn over so much. When I started with Uncanny X-Men, it was Claremont. Thor had Simonson. Captain America had Gruenwald. Back in the day it wasn't uncommon for a creator to stay on the book for years, where today it's uncommon for a creator to last a year. The other thing that has changed is the "writing for trades" aspect that todays books are done in. The "arc" method of writing. It does create a disconnect for the reader. It doesn't mean the quality of the story is bad, or not as good as in the 80s, but it does make it harder to get attached. You don't see the pay off to plot points 10 issues down the line anymore. It's alot of "open and shut" plot points with very little carry over. So you don't get as invested.
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