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01-17-2010, 12:46 AM | #1 |
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I had never finished reading it all. I read the synpopsis on YoJoe but never read the completed issues until today. I had read America's Elite up until #26 and that was it.
So I'm reading WW3 now and wow... bad.... The first thing that screams at me is the lack of a sense of time in the series. The Joes run into the Plague in Malta (or wherever) and they seperate into smaller groups. Duke, Delta, CG and Shipwreck leave first and arrive in New York BEFORE Scarlett and Snake-Eyes leave Malta (or wherever). But the Troopers on the docks that find the diving masks say the freighter arrived two days ago. But there's a scene where Duke and Delta are about to arrive in the harbor and the Joes are still fighting the Plague. They fought them non-stop for days?? And Storm Shadow somehow gets from New Hampshire (neat little tidbit, when he gets the call he's in Concord NH, which is my home) to Greenland in time to stop Tomax and then gets to Idaho and then on a plane and jumping into Prague, all in the time it takes Scarlett and Snake-Eyes to get from Malta to Idaho (and how'd they know to go to that base anyways, all they knew was that the Rock was under attack). It's just screwing with me. All the misuse of time is unbelievable. And what about the national guard, the police? How were they neutralized so quickly? I like the art though. The story just has more holes in it. Ambitious. Bad execution.
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01-17-2010, 12:50 AM | #2 |
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agreed, I liked the premise behind it, but it felt rushed and convoluted. I presume they were aware thir license wouldn't be renewed
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01-17-2010, 03:22 AM | #3 |
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I agree that the art in that storyline was probably the best the book had seen (although I don't really have a lot of basis for comparison... I pretty much skipped the DDP-era and only discovered the run recently). Not a fan of regular DDP GI Joe artist Tim Seeley's approach to military (even fictional military) figures and equipment. Too Mark Bagley-esque for my taste.
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01-17-2010, 01:36 PM | #4 |
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Part 10, they seperate into 3 teams..
1 - how do they radio to the planes that they are needed? there's no communications (which makes me wonder how Wild Bill, Gung-Ho and Spirit knew to stop in New York and pick up Duke - and what was the point of Duke/Rourke showing up early in New York? They did nothing there - and then proceed to Idaho. 2 - the Time thing again. Firewall, Baroness, Destro and Sparks leave (how?) and arrive in London (how, London is controled by the IGs) before the Fort Meade team gets there (okay, they left alot later, can buy that), the team leaves and arrives in South America and the other team leaves and arrives in Antartica. Sure they all leave at different times, but that's not shown. 3- attacking a fortified Fort Meade, under enemy control, with Gen. Colton, a wheelchair bound Hawk, Scarlett, Spirit and Jane? Yeah, I buy that one...
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01-17-2010, 03:06 PM | #5 |
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So much potential...It started off good, with the joes tracking down the various Cobra agents. And the Plague was a very cool concept, but the story just became a mix of chaos and predictability (chaos because of the timeline, predictability because no one died on panel). Had they taken more time, it might actually have been good. It felt like they were trying to do a cartoon mini series in comic form, but it didn't work.
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01-17-2010, 03:26 PM | #6 |
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I remember reading an interview with the creators and it was kinda like at the end they knew it was over. Intially it was going to have the model of a multiple part story at the big 2 like Blackest Night or Dark Reign - the main book was going to be supplemented by mini series and one shots to flesh out the story, but that got nipped in the bud. I think that might have helped the story. I assume some of the things that happened in a blink of the eye where meant to be told in mini series.
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01-17-2010, 05:00 PM | #7 |
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Without a doubt, if the America's Elite series was going to continue, the overall story would have been better.
But the pacing was the biggest issue. Was that just a result of bad writing or having to condense everything together?
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01-18-2010, 11:31 AM | #8 |
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Four other things that bothered me:
1 - The character of Agent Delta, Lorcan Rourke. I know he was supposed to be part of the overall theme, redemption, etc.. but the way he was written. He's gone to ground, never contacted the Joes, Cobra gets him to assassinate the Prime Minister of Israel, but in the end he says he left Cobra right at the beginning of it's formations... so where was he the last however many years and why would Cobra seek out a former member that deserted for such a high profile assassination? 2- Dogfight and Airborne sure spent alot of time in the air battling the IGs over London. Long enough for the Joes to leave Idaho, go to Antartica, defuse the Nuke, get back to time, leave and assault the Appalachian base. 3- The same problem the movie with Cobra-La had. In the movie the Cobras (Destro, Baroness, Zartan, etc..) go along with Golobulus' plan of destroying the world. WHY!?!? In WW3, these people are okay with the Commander destroying the world? WHY?!?! They're not religious followers (like DC's Kobra), they're mercs and political followers. WHY ON EARTH WOULD THEY LET HIM DESTROY THE WORLD?!?! Parts of it, sure, but the whole thing? 4- Since when can Cover Girl and Snake-Eyes disarm Nukes????
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01-19-2010, 06:40 PM | #9 |
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I concur on many of your points! What really killed it for me was having the Joes play tag with the Plague Troopers for roughly 10 issues.
I also laughed when Cobra Commander's big plan was a bomb hidden inside a hollowed-out tree trunk. Also, wasn't there some ex-US military guy that Cobra Commander was corrupting and bringing in? It seemed like he would be a big part of the story, but he was quickly swept under the carpet. I agree with the whole motivation of all the bad guys. Even Cobra Commander. Throughout the history of Cobra, they were simply out to make money through use of warfare and terrorism (I'm remembering the end of the Benzheen War-- CC retreated, but was happy because he literally received a king's ransom in cash to go home). It was a hard sell to get me to believe that Cobra Commander actually wanted to Rule the World. Like everyone said: lots of ambition in WW3, but poor execution.
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01-19-2010, 06:45 PM | #10 |
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overall i loved it but it had problems for sure, it should have had all those side issues to flesh the story out
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