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09-20-2009, 06:26 PM | #11 |
Crimson Guard
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I buy the monthly titles. A quick search came up with these sales figures
January 2009 50 G.I. Joe 1 $3.99 IDW 32,830 February 2009 76 G.I. Joe 2 $3.99 IDW 23,636 March 2009 78 G.I. Joe 3 $3.99 IDW 22,899 April 2009 105 G.I. Joe 4 $3.99 IDW 22,733 May 2009 89 G.I. Joe 5 $3.99 IDW 21,968 June 2009 110 G.I. Joe 6 $3.99 IDW 20,801 July 2009 105 G.I. Joe 7 $3.99 IDW 20,305 August 116 G.I. Joe 8 $3.99 IDW 23.92 A huge drop between issues 1 and two, but pretty steady sales from 2 to 8. I didn't look up G.I. Joe ORIGINS but I would assume it is prob is the same ballpark. Oh, figures came from this site. http://www.comichron.com/ |
09-20-2009, 06:30 PM | #12 |
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I have no problem with reboots - It's the leaden pacing that killed the IDW series for me. I stopped buying a while back.
Those sales figures do seem pretty low though. Did 10,000 people buy issue #1 just because it was a 'first issue? I at least waited until #4 before judging it. They also throw a stark light on just how big the 'hardcore' fanbase is compared to other properties.
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09-20-2009, 06:35 PM | #13 |
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I dont think using the worst parts of the original run to justify the new series actions is a good way to go about things. People dont remember the old series for this crap, they ignore it. Id suggest IDW try to look at the original series and see what DIDNT work and go with the BEST stuff and not the worst stuff to mimick
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09-20-2009, 07:44 PM | #14 |
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09-20-2009, 08:02 PM | #15 |
Banned
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Compaired to what this franchise is doing everywhere else (resolute excluded) IDWs series is a breath of fresh air! I like the reboot, I like the story, and I am not picky about the artwork in a comic book (as long as they are not stick figures i'm cool) Yes there are elements of it I find off from what I like but they are not writing it for me alone. As long as they produce it I will buy it.
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12-19-2009, 07:29 PM | #16 |
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I agree that the pacing early on was terrible. And the dialogue was some of the most wooden and stilted I've seen Chuck Dixon write (and I'm talking as a guy who normally likes Dixon's work). I was ready to swear off the book by issue #5 but the pacing picked up in issue #6. Also, the new artist (SL Gallant) is much more to my liking than Robert Atkins (his work is serviceable, but a tad too much Mark Bagley-ish for my tastes). Try to give it another chance the next time you're in a comics shop and see if your opinion will change.
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12-21-2009, 11:21 AM | #17 |
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I have no problem with reboots - It's the leaden pacing that killed the IDW series for me. I stopped buying a while back.
Those sales figures do seem pretty low though. Did 10,000 people buy issue #1 just because it was a 'first issue? I at least waited until #4 before judging it. They also throw a stark light on just how big the 'hardcore' fanbase is compared to other properties. |
12-21-2009, 11:27 AM | #18 |
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I hate the TPB market, it created a new way of telling storys, the arcs, that for alot of titles just kills 'em....
Don't get anywhere near the amount of stories that used to get and in some cases, like the first Joe arc, means that the story gets extended so it fits a TPB
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12-21-2009, 02:56 PM | #19 |
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Professional scribe (and former GI Joe fill-in writer) Steven Grant has been saying it for at least a few years now... the single issue "floppy" has stopped being profitable for just about any company because of rising costs of unit production. It's just that the Big Two (Marvel and DC) are so wedded to the format that they can't seem to divorce themselves from it and think of alternative methods of content delivery that are better suited to the modern realities of the marketplace (although Marvel seems to be doing a better job trying to get their material into digital media). Right now, single issues serve as loss leaders for the TPBs. And even then, I don't think they're getting the job done (even with single issues being sold at a loss, $3.99 for a single issue is still expensive relative to other forms of competing entertainment for a large segment of the target population). Last edited by zuludelta; 12-21-2009 at 03:00 PM.. Reason: edited for spelling and punctuation |
12-21-2009, 03:04 PM | #20 |
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I have a bunch of Uncanny X-Men TPBs from Claremont's run, the Dark Phoenix Saga and others. Those issues weren't written for the TPB, but they ended up getting produced in TPB format anyways.
The original TPB was a collection of issues from one number to another that had a common theme. Todays are a collection of specific issues written as a short arc. So I think it was more of a combination of things. Write a 4 issue arc and immediately (instead of a year or so later) package it as a TPB. For the most part, it's not that big a deal. Every once in awhile you get a story that is stretched an issue to fit the format (IDWs opening Joe arc) or you get a situation like Bucky-Cap where he's been around for 2 years, but really only 8 stories. Before, 2 years would have been 20-24 stories.
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