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I WANT TO ARGUE Pt. VII. Ninjas Work in G.I. JOE
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02-14-2023, 09:11 AM
Fred Broca
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Quote:
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shishi
As a kid, I always assumed Firefly was a ninja. This was based on the UK computer game "Saboteur!" which was about a ninja infiltrating a base, stealing a computer disc, setting a bomb and then having to escape by helicopter before the bomb destroyed the building. I always imagined that is what Firefly was like.
It was only as an adult I found out about Hama's story about the Faceless Master, which I don't particularly like.
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DarkLordMordred
I don't like that Hama did the bait and switch with the Faceless Master. That clearly should have been Zartan, but Hama knew everyone would think that, so he made it Firefly.
I've never read these stories, but this us an example of piss poor writing on Larry's part. Though in my JOEverse a lot of characters are practitioners of ninjutsu, not everybody is a fucking ninja. Could Firefly be familiar with and extremely proficient in certain aspects of ninjutsu, yes he can, but is he a full on ninja Master, fuck no.
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Cobra Agent 66
The ninja arts were a skillset
. The most famous ninja that we know of were members of the Samurai class, the "landed gentry" so to speak. There were also thieves and warrior monks that used the ninja arts, and Samurai that used irregular methods of warfare that resembled what the ninja did.
Shuriken-jutsu, for example. We think "ninja" but it was a common martial art at the time. Katori Shinto ryu, the oldest and most famous sword school in Japan, has methods for throwing shuriken, reading the land, gathering intelligence about an enemy's fortress, etc. Basic SALUTE report stuff.
There wasn't a clear line between the two, like Jedi vs Sith or something.
The underlined is very important and I think is where most people, (especially the ninja detractors in
JOE
get fucked up at.) They think ninjutsu is a fighting style, (like karate, judo, or aikido.) They don't real that ninjutsu incorporates weapons training, learning to spy, (which includes a bunch of different shit,) and learning various fighting systems.
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