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08-03-2022, 09:38 PM
Jmacq1
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AWOL
ARAH in '82 was styled as the military of the near future. The Hasbro designers visited the U.S. military's R&D facilities to get ideas. This is my ideal version of G.I. Joe.
The space stuff I'm not so crazy about, but I'd take it over the supernatural (including ninja hocus-pocus) any day.
The funny thing is: On paper, this is what Rise of Cobra sounded like for the late 00's (the "military of the near future" business).
And that's really what kills me about Rise of Cobra. It had a lot going for it on paper. A director that seemed well-suited to the material, the #1 guy that pretty much everyone had said should play Snake-Eyes for years in the role, arguably the best Destro casting you could have gotten at the time, and a solid, experienced actor that most fans seemed pleased with to play Hawk. Sienna Miller killed it in terms of looking the part (once she was made up, of course), and in what would prove to be a pattern for GI Joe live-action films so far, they had a show-stealing Storm Shadow.
The tech was all "A few years into the future" which as noted, has often been Joe's "thing." The plot outline plays out almost beat-for-beat like an old Sunbow mini-series.
But then you had a miscast Duke (Woulda killed as Falcon, though), an unnecessary comic-relief shoe-in, taking the tech a smidge too far (with the Accelerator Suits), a lot of plot induced stupidity (Why are we putting the rookies in this no doubt ridiculously expensive tech to go chase bad guys when some of our veteran members are right there?), and some poor chemistry between characters...and that...whatever it was that was supposed to be Cobra Commander. It just didn't gel (Also coulda used 100% more classic-ish vehicles even if I liked the Cobra VTOL thing).
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Dust Viper
Destro was supposed to stand apart from Cobra and his file card points to it. He's a faction to himself.
Well, once we got the Iron Grenadiers, yeah. But prior to that all the media basically presented him as Cobra Commander's exasperated second-in-command (or maybe third-in-command depending on where you view the Baroness as being in the command structure). He showed more independence in the comics but even then seemed pretty inextricably linked to Cobra as an organization until he split off on his own.
There were a lot of Cobra individuals that were basically written up as being mercenaries and freelancers, but for all the talk that implied "standing apart" a whole bunch of them ended up with Cobra logos on their clothes (and stamped on their cardbacks).
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