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GIJOE Reboot, part 1: Dreadnoks
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04-05-2014, 12:17 AM
Ruin
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[QUOTE=Fred;4639089]Totally agree, and thanks : )
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I’m running with those angles for the CGs, actually, with no separation between points one and two you listed. EE and CG as one and the same public organization that offer private security, legal, and financial services – that’s all in the next section that I’ve linked to at the bottom of this comment, as well as edited into the topic post.
That’s a neat idea I could see how you’d go with that, however, when it comes to Zartan and the setting continuity, as a whole, him as a “lone-wolf” type, like Firefly, Major Bludd, and Storm Shadow (to a degree), to me, fits the overall character and his story-arch more. The cult angle was handled wonderfully, IMO, in IDW through Serpentor (who I’ll get to later). If Firefly is the Boba Fett of the GIJOE canon (which it seems like he is to me), Zartan is a male Mystique (X-Men).
Cool concept – problem, reaction, solution. The Noks create a problem and EE (economic aid)/CGs (security aid) sweep in to solve it, thus profiting all. The mob-boss/jet-set archetype works best with the Crimson Twins, as well as Destro, Cobra Commander, and Baroness to a large degree (just my opinions). To keep the Noks as close to possible with their original conception (while updating and editing out the unrealistic aspects that prevent one from a suspension of disbelief) the best trope to run with that I can think of is to combine them with the Plague Troops (but to each his own, mate, and your vision for them and Zartan is pretty cool : ) ).
Actually I think your imagining of Firefly is pretty cool. Fett seems to be far from a loyalist or idealogue, has a code of honor (of sorts) that I've never really seen from FF.
My imagining of Zartan is that he's probably the second most important individual in the organization to Cobra Commander, and one of the most interesting. While I would rate my own Joeverse as being in the 90-95% realism range, there are a few people and entities with geniune mystical powers. Zartan is one of those persons (certain members of the Arashikagi clan are others). His influence cannot be understated as a cult leader who is essentially a cross between
Mola Ram
, Rasputin, Ghandi, and the Dalai Lama.
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Lol, we’re going to have to agree to disagree there -- I think fiction works best as social commentary!
Actually, it's not that I disagree with the ideas of mixing fiction with social commentary (even though it's a risky slippery slope), it's just that this is a promising thread I dont want to see shut down for rules violations. To be clear, I didn't mean to indict you or anyone with this comment.
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Yeah, I can definitely get behind that idea. The only thing I’d change is to combine it with Ruin’s idea of using the Noks as extortion for “Cobra Section A”, and redefining “Cobra Section A” as the CGs.
Noks as black-market gunrunners for MARS (allowing MARS to sell weapons to all sides in a conflict) I like, as well. Drug smuggling to subsidize Cobra is perfect, and ties them to real-world organizations that’ve used the cash generated off-the-books through the drug trade to fund a multitude of wet-works programs.
Link to part 2 here:
http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...ml#post4639088
Some solid ideas, to be sure. I hadn't counted on MARS yet, but think I'll keep it as a seperate entity from EE for a bit.
Can you imagine the secret Cobra meeting between the smug Crimson Twins and the enraged Destro when EE buys out MARS through a hostile takeover just because they can? Hillarity!
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