| Storm Shadow To Play An Even Bigger Role In G.I. Joe 2 | | Posted on 02-03-2010 at 09:32 PM by Shin Densetsu |  | Allkpop has posted a new article which states that actor Lee Byung Hun, AKA Storm Shadow from G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra, will have a more substantial role in G.I. Joe 2. Also listed is the tentative start for filming this year, and pending release date in 2012:
Korean actor Lee Byung Hun is set to receive a more substantial role in the sequel to G.I. Joe.
The character of Storm Shadow, played by the IRIS star, will be given more emphasis in the upcoming sequel to 2009’s G.I. Joe: The Rise of Cobra. Paramount Pictures acknowledged that Lee’s work contributed much to the success of the first film and are developing more stories around his character. Lee has been getting much attention outside of the Korean market recently for his roles in G.I. Joe and last years I Come with the Rain, where he starred along side Josh Hartnett and Japanese actor Takuya Kimura.
Filming for the sequel is scheduled to begin in August with a pending 2012 release.
Will Storm Shadow reveal to Snake Eyes that he did not kill the Hard Master? This was shown not only in the G.I. Joe Rise of Cobra Official Movie Adaptation by IDW Publishing but was also confirmed by Stephen Sommers in an interview prior to the premiere of the movie last year. Will Storm Shadow defect to the G.I. Joe team?
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Originally Posted by CrimsonGuard101  Oh come on, they must be doing a retro movie cause hes techincally a dead character falling into the arctic water liek he did, what he do? Swim away on his own under tons of acrtic ice? Good luck explaining that away if its a continuation film. Going any further back in time and then having him profess his innocence that he was not the one who killed hard master is pretty lame as well. And having him joing the joes so soon? I can see Baroness and Storm Shadow are now joes in sommers f'ed up universe by way of nanomite reproramming the joes develop and creating Anti-Cobrala a GI JOE sci-fi based nanomite technology used to fight Darth Commander and the Imperial Douchbag Turtle vipers while he has Destromeo build a orbiting Hexagonal death star to take th ebattle to ininfity and beyond!
This is going to be good, I can not wait (sarcastically speaking) to what they try and pull off next...Duke was actually injected with nanomites and we did not see it so he becomes Serpentor?
HA ha.. ha... | Storm Shadow is in the Pursuit of Cobra line and is also in OPERATION HISS which takes place between ROC and G.I. Joe 2. Being that OPERATION HISS officially ties into the movie continuity, and that Lee Byung Hun has long been said to return for sequels; yeah Storm Shadow is alive. CrimsonGuard101: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu Storm Shadow is in the Pursuit of Cobra line and is also in OPERATION HISS which takes place between ROC and G.I. Joe 2. Being that OPERATION HISS officially ties into the movie continuity, and that Lee Byung Hun has long been said to return for sequels; yeah Storm Shadow is alive. | Still lame, why have the big death star battle with Snake Eyes and kill him off like they did? Just to revivie him, oooh that was so mystrious...thats what I call hack writting due to a writers strike... CobraCrimson: Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonGuard101 Still lame, why have the big death star battle with Snake Eyes and kill him off like they did? Just to revivie him, oooh that was so mystrious...thats what I call hack writting due to a writers strike... |
There was 2 Death Stars though! Nemesis*Prime: I hope Storm Shadow stays on COBRA's side and I've got my fingers crossed for a Storm Shadow/Baroness romance. CG82: I got my fingers crossed for a restart. Actually said some prayers. CrimsonGuard101: Quote:
Originally Posted by CG82 I got my fingers crossed for a restart. Actually said some prayers. | THIS would be the only acceptbale reason for Storm Shadow to return...total reboot and an appology from Hasbro! But hey its going to be in 2012, they don't care if we all commit mass suicide as they add more comic releif by using M. Night Shamyhandyman as Co-writter and producer for the sequal.. "What a twist!" Monkeywrench: theres still hope for a reboot CG82: Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonGuard101 THIS would be the only acceptbale reason for Storm Shadow to return...total reboot and an appology from Hasbro! But hey its going to be in 2012, they don't care if we all commit mass suicide as they add more comic releif by using M. Night Shamyhandyman as Co-writter and producer for the sequal.. "What a twist!" | Yeah, and before that mass suicide takes place I want just 5 minutes with Mr. Goldner and a ditty bag, an itty bitty bag.
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" 'G.I. Joe' has just gone into filming this past week, with a great cast and a tremendous story all based on the comics and the animation," Goldner said. "I think fans, and fans to come, will really love what we're doing."
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We all really loved what G.I. Joe was about in the '80s; we loved that story arc and the concept of Joe vs. Cobra," said Goldner, explaining that the people who created those characters will return, even if some of their creations won't. Comics writer Larry Hama, Goldner confirmed, "is onboard, and he's working with us on the script.
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Originally Posted by CrimsonGuard101 Still lame, why have the big death star battle with Snake Eyes and kill him off like they did? Just to revivie him, oooh that was so mystrious...thats what I call hack writting due to a writers strike... | It's STORM SHADOW the guy who had one of the best roles in the movie. Why kill one of the most iconic characters in G.I Joe lore? CrimsonGuard101: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu It's STORM SHADOW the guy who had one of the best roles in the movie. Why kill one of the most iconic characters in G.I Joe lore? | With Sommers anything is possible...Cobra Commander and Duke are locker room buddies from the army, Duke loves CCs sister who turned out to be a greiving lunatic who got nanomites from her brother assaulting her in her own bedroom as Darth Commander and she can't figurte out who he is or how he got in her house, oh maybe he was downstairs in his room after dinner.... Marlanecord is supposed to be a super ace fighter plane wanabe pilot who want sin the airforce and can not figure out how to read a manual for a power suit?
I do agree the actor himself has a huge amount of potential in a normal joe verse as Storm Shadow, but hey I did not direct that scene where he gets sliced to ribbons and stabbed by Snake Eyes in the death star beam reactor room with the ninja sword....to have him fall 4-5 storeies into arctic waters. Works for cartoons but not live action movies...however cheeseed and popcorned you try and make it flicks... ~Synder Corps.~: Look, traditional Samurai obey their daiyomo (It's been a LOT of few years since I've gotten into this, so if I'm wrong, forgive me) And over all, Tommy just wanted to find out who the killer of his uncle was, so of course, he'd play the "respectable" ninja/Samurai/ronin, in accordance to how he was trained in order to reveal the truth.
I'm sure Sommers WILL take a page from the original Marvel Run and say that it was Firefly, posing as the "Faceless" master who killed Tommy's uncle.
A nice and writer friendly way of introducing FF into the movie storyline in a "big" way.
And all things aside, The dude who played SS was one of the BETTER actors of the movie in the first place! I'm glad he'll get a bigger role in the 2nd Mazinger: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos Bah, keep Storm Shadow evil. It's where he always should have been and stayed. | Agree.
I like how the bad guy wears white and the good guy wears black. Nice little change from the classical norm.
He did kill the Baron and one of his scientists. Mint Condition: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu Never. Leave generic evil ninjas in the numerous 70's/80's ninja flicks. Storm Shadow's bad assery is due in part because he had to live a lie to find the truth. ROC left it open to whether he did it or not, but I'm inclined to think that's what he was doing the entire time. | But Storm Shadow started out as a generic ninja.
I say keep him bad. I never read the comics, don't know about that continuity, but Storm Shadow has always been a bad guy to me. It's how he should stay.
Even if he does have his demons (what villain doesn't?) he should stay bad. I thought RoC Storm Shadow was badass just because...he was. Everything he did, said, the way he dressed...pure badass. Ohio Duke: Storm Shadow was very cool in ROC and when he became a Joe back in the day, that was one of my favorite figures. I used him so much I wore some of the camo off. I say Yo Joe! Storm Shadow. ~Synder Corps.~: But the whole black/white thing is SO cliche'!
That was one of the reasons I feel that Hamma did it that way, the anti-ying/yang, but as the characters developed, it wasn't a ying/yang.
I mean, c'mon... A WHITE NINJA??? In the midst of a blue and red army (Or black and red if you follow ROC protocols)
Stormy has only been doing what he feels he needs to do in order to find the killer of his uncle. If that means blowing up the Eifel tower...whatever. Samurai/Ninja sense of family/HONOR, over-rides ALL.
Stormy's uncle was killed. The closest thing he had to a father. His name is tarnished, and according to the bushido, he either has to clear his name, or take his own life.
Which would mean. giving up. And that is NOT the Arashikage way. green_shirt: Quote:
Originally Posted by CG82 I got my fingers crossed for a restart. Actually said some prayers. | I've always found that the blood of a goat helps speed things along. aussietrooper20: It could be that he was brainwashed by the evil doctor, and the icey water somehow restores him as did the baroness.
it could then be that storm shadow and snake Eyes discover that firefly was the one who killed the hard master in the first place, and perhaps scrap iron posed as sgt stone helps the snake leaders to escape.
Its better off having Storm Shadow as a good guy. part 2: shame he died by falling down a pit filled with lightning in an underwater base that got blown up shortly thereafter Colonel Bludd: I so don't want the I was a bad guy for 15 years but I'm gonna decide to be a good guy today theme. Headman: Great....more Ninja stuff. Ugh. TheLongestDay: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu Doesn't matter it's not like IDW is going to retcon that part out in #155 & 1/2 onward.
Anyways back to the movie. Storm Shadow is better as a conflicted, tragic hero. Evil ninja=boring. | Exactly.
..and this is why I despised Resolute Stormy. Headman: Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLongestDay Exactly.
..and this is why I despised Resolute Stormy. | Resolute Storm Shadow wasn't evil. He just hated Snake Eyes as much as I do. Plus he was sort of miffed about that whole third rock from the sun technique. wishfulthinking: Quote:
Originally Posted by Headman Great....more Ninja stuff. Ugh. | I'm okay with Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow. It's when you bring in Ninja Force that I stop paying attention. TheLongestDay: Quote:
Originally Posted by Headman Resolute Storm Shadow wasn't evil. He just hated Snake Eyes as much as I do. Plus he was sort of miffed about that whole third rock from the sun technique. | All I got from that take on the character was:
"Waahh! Hardmaster liked you more than me!! waaahhaaa! He didnt teach me that move I wanted for my birthday!! Waah! I HATE YOU SNAKE EYES! YOU SUCK YOU STUPID FACE!"
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Originally Posted by TheLongestDay All I got from that take on the character was:
"Waahh! Hardmaster liked you more than me!! waaahhaaa! He didnt teach me that move I wanted for my birthday!! Waah! I HATE YOU SNAKE EYES! YOU SUCK YOU STUPID FACE!"
...Or something along those lines | Yeah that's pretty much it. I like the Storm Shadow / Spirit dynamic better anyway. TheLongestDay: Quote:
Originally Posted by Headman Yeah that's pretty much it. I like the Storm Shadow / Spirit dynamic better anyway. | Well I will take that over Storm Shadow vs Quick Kick! lol CG82: The return of Storm Shadow for the sequel was shown by not having Storm Shadow hit any of the waves of electrical power from the damaged powershaft(Naboo)thigny--if you watch the scene carefully he misses each of the bursts as he falls into the water. It is must likely they'll incorporate some mystical or supernatural shit to revive him.
The fact is there is nothing heroic or honorable about killing innocent people. Besides, Ninja's are assassins, mercenaries nothing more. The Baroness(or is its Barreness?) DeCobray(married to a french scientist which so happens to have a name like that and some sexual tension between her and SS--seems everyone is railing her in ROC)storyline is another ruination and that which is FAR worse than Storm Shadow being another brainwashed zombie that turns good. I wouldnt really jump the gun from a posters opinion on just the news that SS will be back(which wasnt really news since it was known he signed on for sequels since the debut of ROC). Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by Headman Resolute Storm Shadow wasn't evil. He just hated Snake Eyes as much as I do. Plus he was sort of miffed about that whole third rock from the sun technique. | Judging by the fact that Storm Shadow presumably survived their last bout in Resolute(by the extra footage after the credits where his grave his empty with the swords gone), I think it's rather clever that he tricked Snake Eyes into showing him the 7th step.
The BIG thing was that not only did Storm Shadow inadvertently learn the 7th step, HE SURVIVED IT. Bad ass at it's finest. Ctrl_Z: He better not defect. I'd prolly lose respect for the movie character. If they blame it on nanomites. that would be a total cop-out Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by CG82 Besides, Ninja's are assassins, mercenaries nothing more. | That's what hollywood would and the numerous portrayals of ninjas by the media would like you to believe. Why? Violence in movies breeds money. For example, I thought Ninja Assassin was a disappointing movie but it's action scenes were incredible; even if they were beyond belief, it still looked cool. Were ninjas assassins and mercenaries at times? Yes. Yet their techniques were not only for espionage, but for plain survival. In Japanese society, ninjas were utilized by shoguns but despised by most samurai. Samurais were on the upper echelon of the social ladder, ninjas were looked at as much lower. Same reason why if any were caught, they were usually killed slowly and maimed. Samurais had clout but oft times ninjas didn't.
Not to mention they were peasants and often poor. Same reason why the shinobi-to couldn't be used the same way as the katana; ninjas often couldn't afford such fine blades. Their swords were used more as tools than weapons. Of course rarely ever does Hollywood, comics, cartoons, whatever take note of this because people want to see action and the reality of their endeavors seems boring in comparison to most fans.
The truly successful mission for a ninja was one with no blood shed, no cover compromised, successful infiltration in plain sight, et al. Not the whole "sneak in kill everything in sight steal shit and leave". That works in movies but little else. I'm not saying every Hollywood portrayal has to be accurate nor am I saying that the history of ninjutsu lacks violence. It's been skewed in favor of what makes ninjas look more exciting onscreen. However as with most things in movies; everything is exaggerated.
So why yes, there is no doubt that some ninjas were employed as assassins and mercenaries, and that Hollywood often thinks of them as nothing more, in reality not all ninjas were like that. You don't see Maasaki Hatsumi(real ninja master in Japan) roaming Tokyo assassinating people or Stephen K. Hayes(one of the 1st western practioners of ninjutsu) taking part in a PMC as a real life Snake Eyes.
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I wouldnt really jump the gun from a posters opinion on just the news that SS will be back(which wasnt really news since it was known he signed on for sequels since the debut of ROC).
| The news here is that he will play a more substantial role in G.I. Joe 2. The fact that he was going to be in G.I. Joe 2 was already covered by us last year. More than once, months back. Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by Ctrl_Z He better not defect. I'd prolly lose respect for the movie character. If they blame it on nanomites. that would be a total cop-out | If he defects under the premise of infiltrating M.A.R.S. Cobra the entire time, and now has the evidence he needs so no longer needs to be with them, cool. Nanomites? Yeah, copout. Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by ~Synder Corps.~
And all things aside, The dude who played SS was one of the BETTER actors of the movie in the first place! I'm glad he'll get a bigger role in the 2nd
| True, he was one of the strongest actors in the movie. Lee and Eccleston were my favorites.
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Originally Posted by Mint Condition But Storm Shadow started out as a generic ninja.
I say keep him bad. I never read the comics, don't know about that continuity, but Storm Shadow has always been a bad guy to me. It's how he should stay.
Even if he does have his demons (what villain doesn't?) he should stay bad. I thought RoC Storm Shadow was badass just because...he was. Everything he did, said, the way he dressed...pure badass. | No he didn't. Storm Shadow only shows up as a generic ninja in the Sunbow cartoon. A guy whose foil is SPIRIT. Yes, the tracker with the Eagle. SPIRIT. Spirit is cool but come on now the tracker?
In the comic Storm Shadow was never a generic ninja. In the issue that he debuts, by the end you realize that he and Snake Eyes are tied together somehow. Not too many issues later we learn that he isn't a villain at all.
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Originally Posted by ~Synder Corps.~ But the whole black/white thing is SO cliche'!
That was one of the reasons I feel that Hamma did it that way, the anti-ying/yang, but as the characters developed, it wasn't a ying/yang.
I mean, c'mon... A WHITE NINJA??? In the midst of a blue and red army (Or black and red if you follow ROC protocols)
Stormy has only been doing what he feels he needs to do in order to find the killer of his uncle. If that means blowing up the Eifel tower...whatever. Samurai/Ninja sense of family/HONOR, over-rides ALL.
Stormy's uncle was killed. The closest thing he had to a father. His name is tarnished, and according to the bushido, he either has to clear his name, or take his own life.
Which would mean. giving up. And that is NOT the Arashikage way. | IIRC Storm Shadow having a white costume was all Hasbro; Hama is the one who created the personality. If we are going to talk stealthy colors, we have to take into account that black isn't the stealthiest color either. The preferred color of ninjutsu gis was dark brown. Blends in with surroundings more(or it did in feudal Japan).
Also, since Storm Shadow is a ninja, bushido isn't necessarily followed by him and his family. It CAN be, but traditionally no, as bushido is followed by the samurai and the techniques of ninjutsu are likened to the antithesis of bushido. This isn't to say that ninjas lack honor, most followed a code of honor as well, but it was different than bushido. For example, bushido dictates that you should not strike an opponent from behind. With ninjutsu, strikes from any direction are recommended for the preservation of your own survival. Whereas formalities seem to be the primary influence on bushido, survival tends to be the primary influence on ninjutsu.
*Now there were ninjas with dual shinobi/bushin status. Hattori Hanzo was both ninja and samurai. However it must be taken into account that he and his clan from the Iga mountains secured passage for Tokugawa Iesayu, the man who united Japan, and without their protection and Hanzo's direction, Iesayu would have probably been assassinated*
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Originally Posted by part 2 shame he died by falling down a pit filled with lightning in an underwater base that got blown up shortly thereafter | He didn't die. He is going to show up in OPERATION HISS and the Pursuit of Cobra line. If he died, he wouldn't show up. Caravankidd: I rather like the idea of he's both honorable and evil at the same time. A bit more interesting to keep him evil than to have him change sides just because he has a personal code of honor.
Plus he's a great counter for Snake Eyes so the two sides are kind of balanced out with a super ninja on both sides making for a bit tension about who will win. CallMeChuckles: I know. I was being sarcastic about the fact that Hollywood is now making some point to start using source matirial NOW, rather than from the start!
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Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu The news here is that he will play a more substantial role in G.I. Joe 2. The fact that he was going to be in G.I. Joe 2 was already covered by us last year. More than once, months back. | Well the front page cover story includes one posters belief that Storm Shadow would defect. And THAT added tidbit based on the simple line" he will play a more substantial role', which has some posters here talking. I already know he was signed on for more movies.
As for a Ninja, it was a covert agent or mercenary of feudal Japan specializing in unorthodox arts of war. And those functions included espionage, sabotage, infiltration, and assassination, as well as open combat in certain situations.
Ninja - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The oxford dictionary definition mentions:
• noun a person skilled in ninjutsu.
— ORIGIN Japanese, ‘spy’.
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If we all trained in ninjutsu and hire ourselves out as assassins or spies, we'd be ninjas too. Point is Ninja's arent anything special. The Japanese thought they were samurai during WW2, it didnt get them anywhere either. CallMeChuckles: Yeah? Well they look cool! Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by CG82 Well the front page cover story includes one posters belief that Storm Shadow would defect. And THAT added tidbit based on the simple line" he will play a more substantial role', which has some posters here talking. I already know he was signed on for more movies. | The frontpage newspost asks if Storm Shadow will defect. We don't know if we will. CG82: Quote:
Originally Posted by CrimsonGuard101 ....to have him fall 4-5 storeies into arctic waters. |
Hehe, not only that but also the depth of those waters which they were in. plus the base mustve fell on top of when it sunk,lol. Maybe the red ninja fairies were disguised and brought him to the top , or his dead uncle came back as orca and dragged his ice cubed corpse to the shore in Greenland to be revived by Dr. Kwinn medicine man. I'll buy that for a dollar... Python_Puckman: Quote:
Originally Posted by sparhawk Just blame those lousy nanomites! They made him blow up that Waffle Tower. | No one likes the French anyway, so I can forgive him for that  dragon: my only concern about this is i would like an explaination in the second film to see how he survive the battle with snakeeyes at the end of the movie did he get injected with nanbot they cured his injurys, or did zartan lok fro him & helped him out part 2: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu
He didn't die. He is going to show up in OPERATION HISS and the Pursuit of Cobra line. If he died, he wouldn't show up.
| he died in resolute :c RolandofGilead: Hi didn't die in Resolute either. At the end of the DVD they flash to his empty/open grave (I can't remember which). CG82: Quote:
Originally Posted by RolandofGilead Hi didn't die in Resolute either. At the end of the DVD they flash to his empty/open grave (I can't remember which). | He did technically die. Doubt SE wouldnt bury him alive-- not knowing whether someone is alive or dead I can't see how'd you miss like that. The ending just leaves it as a hint and open for interpretation whether he will come back or not. shady78: While I'm part of the silent minority that actually liked ROC, I really wish they didn't use 6 year old SS and SE in the flashback scenes. Don,t get me wrong, it was one of the funner scenes in the movie, but wouldn't that make Zartan like 65 in ROC? And why did they stab Hard Master in the back with a sword? Should have just used an arrow shot out of view.....
I really hope the sequel is a lot darker dealing with this plot line as it is the one of the more important backbones to the story.
My 2cents.... rosales416: first why does the movie have to come out until 2012? thats so far away. second...WTF DO NOT TURN STORM SHADOW TO GOOD!!! the farthest i go is storm shadow saving snake eyes from a falling wall or something like that but do turn sides hellll nooo FirstOne: 2012 release? Wow that's a long wait... Lt. Faceless: Correct me if im wrong,but isn't SS the Phenoix master? Thats why he isn't dead.I still think the Kid from TMNT 2(Go watch The Rundown and watch him beat up on the Rock.Thats badassness). would of made a better SS. Zefram: Quote:
Originally Posted by Troynos Not really Chief. ALot of bad guys thru history and in media had the "no women, no children" thing. | No women, no children...
... or Natalie Portman will f***ing kill you.
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