| MTV Movies Blog Gives Details On Cobra Commander From G.I. Joe:Rise Of Cobra! |
| Posted on 09-06-2008 at 12:12 AM by Shin Densetsu | Social Bookmarks | RSS Feeds | MTV Movies Blog sheds more light on the infamous Cobra Commander from the upcoming G.I. Joe:Rise of Cobra! According to producer Lorenzo di Bonaventura, Cobra Commander will be a very twisted character with a gritty past. He will sport a new mask that is neither from the cartoon or comic. Read more by clicking the discuss button below!
Thanks to HissTank boards member sn8ke3y3s for the heads up!
| | Credit: sn8ke3y3s of the Hiss Tank Forums! | Views: 5,325 | | SportingViper: Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLongestDay  So?! Beau Flynn was executive producer on Darren Aronofsky's "Requiem for a dream" but watch any interview with Aronofsky and its clear his vision is what you see on the screen with no one elses say-same with Chris Nolan on Batman Begins+Dark Knight and about a billion others i cant be bothered to list! lol | Chris Nolan produced The Dark Knight. TheLongestDay: Quote:
Originally Posted by SportingViper Chris Nolan produced The Dark Knight. | The Dark Knight
Produced by
Kevin De La Noy .... executive producer
Jordan Goldberg .... associate producer
Philip Lee .... line producer: Hong Kong
Karl McMillan .... production associate producer
Benjamin Melniker .... executive producer
Christopher Nolan .... producer
Charles Roven .... producer
Emma Thomas .... producer
Thomas Tull .... executive producer
Michael E. Uslan .... executive producer
wow....thats alot of people telling him what to do and think huh?
All my points are moot-you arent even listening to most of whats being said here (or written as the case may be)...methinks you just like to debate for the sake of it so im outta here for now.
Byeeeeee delta: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu Most of us want to watch a good G.I. Joe movie, not a propaganda film, there are already enough of those out there, we don't need propaganda tainting our franchise. | So are you agreeing with me or not? I can't tell. haha! Rocky: According to IMDB the Chain of Command is as follows:
Brian Goldner Executive ~ Producer
Lorenzo di Bonaventura ~ Producer
Bob Ducsay ~ Producer
Stephen Sommers Director
"Now the Director is the principal creative artist on a movie set. A director is usually the driving artistic source behind the filming process, and communicates to actors the way that he/she would like a particular scene played. A director's duties might also include casting, script editing, shot
selection, shot composition, and editing." (from IMDB)
So unless Sommers goes completely Maverick and tries to do something off the books he has complete control of everything. This is his film. But he does have a boss and that boss is Bonaventura. Now that does not mean that Bonaventura can do what he wants as well. It has to come from the top and that is Goldner. Goldner is the Chief Operating Officer of Hasbro, Inc. and even he has a boss, The Board of Directors.
It is kinda funny that people think that one person can do whatever he wants (to a film) when he wants. The Director and Producer cannot just wake up one morning and change things without going through the proper channels. That is not how it works! Film is by committee and it is only getting worse. Johnnyakiba: I think it will be an "If SEE" but I am hoping for the best. JGL does not seem interested in his own movie so hopefully he dies in the begining. darthdoug: I would love to see the HOOD make an appearance at some point. Anyone have any pics or updates on what kind of mask they will have or is this top-secret? I'm really hoping it doesn't suck. It will absolutely kill the movie for me if he has a suck-ass mask throughout the whole thing. TheLongestDay: Kevin Smith was the writer-whose script then got thrown out by the Director.
Interesting to note that Jon Peters also produced "Superman Returns" which contained no giant spiders,gay robots or wrasslin polar bears-it was all Bryan Singers vision SportingViper: Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLongestDay Kevin Smith was the writer-whose script then got thrown out by the Director.
Interesting to note that Jon Peters also produced "Superman Returns" which contained no giant spiders,gay robots or wrasslin polar bears-it was all Bryan Singers vision | He used the Spider in Wild Wild West. And Singer was also a producer for the Superman movie. Rogles: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu We aren't even sure if that mask is for the gijoe movie, its just an assumption made by fans who wanted something to complain about yet again. | Actually, that whole story went down like this:
There was a guy on IMDB who claimed to have worked in the art department during pre-production. He said CC wasn't going to wear the hood or battle-helmet and instead he was going to be wearing a "skullish-looking Jason-like mask". Sure he could have been lying, however he did seem legit (wasn't written in a way to insight flaming and his other posts in other imdb boards suggested he worked in the industry) and this was about a month before that pic was leaked. So I can't say this is exactly PURE fan speculation. Rocky: Quote:
Originally Posted by SportingViper He used the Spider in Wild Wild West. And Singer was also a producer for the Superman movie. | After Smith made a mockery of him, I am sure the Suits had him change his mind! delta: Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogles Actually, that whole story went down like this:
There was a guy on IMDB who claimed to have worked in the art department during pre-production. He said CC wasn't going to wear the hood or battle-helmet and instead he was going to be wearing a "skullish-looking Jason-like mask". Sure he could have been lying, however he did seem legit (wasn't written in a way to insight flaming and his other posts in other imdb boards suggested he worked in the industry) and this was about a month before that pic was leaked. So I can't say this is exactly PURE fan speculation. | Wow. I did not know that.
I won't take it as fact just yet, but it's a little closer Shin Densetsu: Quote: |
All my points are moot-you arent even listening to most of whats being said here (or written as the case may be)...methinks you just like to debate for the sake of it so im outta here for now.
| You pretty much nailed it right there.
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Actually, that whole story went down like this:
There was a guy on IMDB who claimed to have worked in the art department during pre-production. He said CC wasn't going to wear the hood or battle-helmet and instead he was going to be wearing a "skullish-looking Jason-like mask". Sure he could have been lying, however he did seem legit (wasn't written in a way to insight flaming and his other posts in other imdb boards suggested he worked in the industry) and this was about a month before that pic was leaked. So I can't say this is exactly PURE fan speculation.
| I did not know that. Care to elaborate? I think it would clear up a lot of the confusion surrounding the mystery mask. Thanks for posting that.
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It is kinda funny that people think that one person can do whatever he wants (to a film) when he wants.
| What's even funnier is that the person who does think that has no other evidence to go on. Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Originally Posted by SportingViper From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia | Ladies and gentlemen, this guy has referenced wikipedia, the most accurate reference material on the internet!
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He was executive producer on all those movies.
| Yet Lucas' vision and desires overrode everyone else in production of that movie.
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Dude its a producers job 9 times out of 10 to be the voice of the Director and the movie as a whole-the spokesperson if you will
| Which is exactly what Di Bonaventura is doing now, and what he did for the Transformers movie, and why Michael Bay got pissed at him when he requested writing credits.
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Read the interviews with this idiot producer and you'll see that what HE wants is want we're going to get. He didn't say Sommers or anybody else.
| Don't see Barack Obama in the movie or the movie being retitled U.N. Joe. I don't see a team comprised of military members of other nations. I see a team of members from different brances of the U.S. military with a secret base outside of the US, an American strike force but in a movie which lacks the A Real American Hero label, and people bitching about the lack of a label. egoing: Could it be The Destro mask? Yeah, but I'm going to say this is Cobra Commander's "twisted" new mask.
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Originally Posted by Rogles Actually, that whole story went down like this:
There was a guy on IMDB who claimed to have worked in the art department during pre-production. He said CC wasn't going to wear the hood or battle-helmet and instead he was going to be wearing a "skullish-looking Jason-like mask". Sure he could have been lying, however he did seem legit (wasn't written in a way to insight flaming and his other posts in other imdb boards suggested he worked in the industry) and this was about a month before that pic was leaked. So I can't say this is exactly PURE fan speculation. | So then that mask that was posted on HISS Tank a few weeks ago is Cobra Commader's mask? Not good. Anyone have that link or image again? I couldn't find it.
[edit: Nevermind Egoing found it.] Shin Densetsu: Quote: |
So then that mask that was posted on HISS Tank a few weeks ago is Cobra Commader's mask? Not good. Anyone have that link or image again? I couldn't find it.
| He didn't say it was, he said it might be.
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Could it be The Destro mask? Yeah. I'm going to say this is Cobra Commander's "twisted" new mask.
| Looks more like Cobra C.L.A.W.S. from Spytroops, I hope that isn't Cobra Commander's mask. Its menacing, but I want something more reminscent of the battle mask. Gentleman: Am I the only one who thinks the hood is actually CC's most 'menacing' look?
It's sick.
And it's just a piece of cloth over his head. Talk about "less is more", eh?  Rocky: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu Don't see Barack Obama in the movie or the movie being retitled U.N. Joe. | Hey what did Barack do............LOL.....Jk. spacemonkeymafia: Quote:
Originally Posted by gentleman am i the only one who thinks the hood is actually cc's most 'menacing' look?
It's sick.
And it's just a piece of cloth over his head. Talk about "less is more", eh? | yessssssssssssssssssss!!! Rocky: Quote:
Originally Posted by Gentleman Am I the only one who thinks the hood is actually CC's most 'menacing' look?
It's sick.
And it's just a piece of cloth over his head. Talk about "less is more", eh? | Agree 100% Shin Densetsu: Quote:
Am I the only one who thinks the hood is actually CC's most 'menacing' look?
It's sick.
And it's just a piece of cloth over his head. Talk about "less is more", eh?
| True but the battle mask in the comic was more practical, fit for a leader who could join the battle as opposed to looking iconic and ordering from the sidelines. Lantern_Lad: Quote:
Originally Posted by Rocky FYI...........You can be Asian, Irish, Italian, and Hispanic and still be American. | Rocky... thank you. Cool headed logic at it's best.
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Originally Posted by SportingViper Dude, that producer is a f@cking nutcase and complete idiot.Have you seen that other interview that I usually post here. He has no shame at all spreading his personal and worldviews on to established franchises like G.I.Joe.
As much as I didn't like the Transformers movie that much,I'll give credit to Bay for making the US military men and women look good and not be ashame of them. In Transformers it was the US military against a WORLD(like Cobra) threat, not the F@CKING U.N. | Quote:
Originally Posted by delta You mean just like you are doing right now? | At what point are all of you just arguing to be heard? Sporting doesn't like the international overtones (which existed even in the 80's) and Delta likes to point out his flawed logic.
I see circles going round & round here and no one is getting anywhere.
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Originally Posted by TheLongestDay
Lets see:
General Hawk-Commander of the joes CHECK
Duke-First Sergeant for the Joes CHECK
Scarlett-Sexy redhead wields a crossbow CHECK
Heavy Duty-Huge black guy with a penchant for massive guns CHECK
Breaker-Communications expert CHECK
Snake eyes-Mute Black clad ninja commando badass CHECK
Destro-Shady arms dealer head of M.A.R.S CHECK
Baroness-Skin tight black leather wearing lethal she devil CHECK
Cobra Commander-twisted megalomaniac in a mask CHECK
Storm Shadow-White clad ninja assassin CHECK
Count yourself lucky!!!
| I agree on all points. Sain voice of reason.
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Originally Posted by TheLongestDay So youre telling me that Rick McCallum had more say than George Lucas on the recent STAR WARS movies??? lol!! | McCallum is the biggest boot licker of a producer I've ever seen. He would happily (refraining from putting incredibly explicit, graphic and nauseating sexual innuendo in this spot) to George the moment he snapped his finger and said: 'Whatta ya waitin' for, start s(censored)ing bitch!' TheLongestDay: Quote:
Originally Posted by egoing Could it be The Destro mask? Yeah, but I'm going to say this is Cobra Commander's "twisted" new mask. | That could be CC,but i thought it looked more like these Vipers (who remind me of range vipers-cool IMO)
Cuz the dudes in the pic dont look like the Neo Vipers to me:
similar suits but they seem to have different helmets........hmm? TheLongestDay: I put this pic together to show you what I mean:
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Originally Posted by Lantern_Lad Delta likes to point out his flawed logic. | Well ya got me partner, He's settin' em' up AMERICAN_Hero7: Tankers:
How about we all just put aside the complaining about what is accurate and what is or isn't true to the comic and/or cartoon and just wait to see an entertaining movie that at worst will recognize and carry the name of our beloved gi joe.
Don't be affraid of having a good time watching a movie about gi joe. Might be accurate, might not, but i bet it'll be fun to watch and buy on dvd.
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| | spacemonkeymafia | | Post Deleted by on 12-31-1969 07:00 PM | darthdoug: Quote:
Originally Posted by AMERICAN_Hero7 Tankers:
How about we all just put aside the complaining about what is accurate and what is or isn't true to the comic and/or cartoon and just wait to see an entertaining movie that at worst will recognize and carry the name of our beloved gi joe.
Don't be affraid of having a good time watching a movie about gi joe. Might be accurate, might not, but i bet it'll be fun to watch and buy on dvd. | I take orders from no one! I plan to complain along with the rest of them just because you told us not to. (Kinda like when Mom tells you not to touch the hot stove). Tracker: Quote:
Originally Posted by darthdoug I take orders from no one! I plan to complain along with the rest of them just because you told us not to. (Kinda like when Mom tells you not to touch the hot stove). | OK I'm telling you to complain then :P darthdoug: haha... I just want the damn movie to hurry up so I can form a real opinion already. Not having to listen to everyone else's opinion that is based loosely on bits & pieces of movie actors & props. Let's just get this over with already! delta: Quote:
Originally Posted by darthdoug haha... I just want the damn movie to hurry up so I can form a real opinion already. Not having to listen to everyone else's opinion that is based loosely on bits & pieces of movie actors & props. Let's just get this over with already! | Ya know. When everybody thought the new Rambo movie was going to suck, Stallone put out 7 or so minutes of brutal footage from the movie on the internet, and that started some positive "buzz" going about the movie.
When people started getting skeptical about what they were hearing about 'the Dark Knight.' The makers of that movie put out the intire first scene from that movie (ya know the "bank robbing" scene").
I wish they would just go a head, and show us some more of GI.Joe.
They probably aren't going to cus' they have something to hide. The movie probably won't even be show to critics cus' it sucks so bad. Rogles: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu You pretty much nailed it right there.
I did not know that. Care to elaborate? I think it would clear up a lot of the confusion surrounding the mystery mask. Thanks for posting that.
| There's not too many details. I can't remember his name. Back in March he posted on imdb saying something about that he worked in preproduction for GI Joe and he had seen the final concept art for most of the the characters and he offered to answer any questions people had for the designs. One of the first questions was about Cobra Commander. He answered that the best he could describe it was a skull-like Jason mask. He also added that the back of his head was exposed which was bald and scarred (it's difficult to tell if the leaked pic is like this).
He answered a few other questions on some of the other characters but I can't remember the details of his replies which sucks because that would actually really help to see if he was legit or not. I do wonder if anyone else here remembers the details of this guy's post. Rogles: Quote:
Originally Posted by TheLongestDay I put this pic together to show you what I mean: | You could be right. aussietrooper20: It looks like a skelator mask used in masters of the universe to me. this film looks to be that cobra had been destroyed, but some crazy people want to return cobra's organization back, and some guy makes everyone think his Cobra Commander when his an old freinds of Dukes.
I think the story also takes place in the year 2020. Rocky: Quote:
Originally Posted by delta I wish they would just go a head, and show us some more of GI.Joe. | What do you mean by "MORE" when they have not shown us anything as of yet. aussietrooper20: There just showing us the bad things making it look like a bad film to see. Rocky: bad things as leaked photo's some publicity stills and costume concepts. Hardly enough to make an intelligent judgement. Shin Densetsu: Quote: |
What do you mean by "MORE" when they have not shown us anything as of yet.
| Thats what he meant, more as in a trailer or official video footage. Gulfster: I bet they will release an official trailer during Super Bowl this year.Just my dumb opinion though.Anyone else want to guess when the trailer comes out?? Rocky: Quote:
Originally Posted by Shin Densetsu Thats what he meant, more as in a trailer or official video footage. | I know, thanks. |
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