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12-16-2008, 11:25 PM | #21 |
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great info
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12-16-2008, 11:39 PM | #22 |
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I'm almost done making it... it's not official, but going by filecard info, it should be pretty close. I'll let you guys decide about it after I post it.
Using YoJoe as a reference and reading all the VvV filecards for the Cobra forces... man, these are retarded. Coil Crusher? WTF... Last edited by UMAN; 12-16-2008 at 11:49 PM.. |
12-16-2008, 11:55 PM | #23 |
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I don't know but I always sorta assumed that Cobra had seperate branches like the U.S. Military in a weird way.Blue shirts and vipers could be the same rank just different divisions.Sorta like an E-1(private in the army=blueshirt) or E-1 (Private in the Marines=viper)E-1(seaman in the navy)E-1(airman in the airforce).I always kinda saw the rankings this way,same ranks different names for different divisions.
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12-17-2008, 01:30 AM | #24 |
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Ok, this is getting harder than I thought, so I'll just do a quick rundown. I don't really have time to organize a real chart, but I've got the basics down...
Top Echelon: 1. Serpentor - Emperor, sometimes. 2. Cobra Commander - Supreme Leader, almost always. Inner Circle: 3. The Baroness - His right hand. 4. Major Bludd - Mercenary leader of Cobra's infantry 5. Xamot & Tomax - EE & Crimson Guard Commanders 6. Destro - Would-be Cobra Leader; Iron Grenadiers 7. Zartan - Leader of the Dreadnoks 8. Storm Shadow - CC's bodyguard Outer Circle: 9. Firefly - saboteur 10. Scrap-Iron - demolitions expert 11. Dr. Mindbender - mad scientist 12. Dr. Venom - scientist Cobra Flunkies: 13. Any individual + specialized Cobra Agent, these guys have clout over any of the Cobra Forces. Cobra Forces: 14. Crimson Guards - Best of the best, upper level. 15. Eel Classes - SEALs of Cobra, includes Snow Serpents 16. Viper Classes - Marines of Cobra 17. Cobra Officers - this would also include HISS Drivers 18. Cobra Troopers - basic Cobra army, BATs would be equal. Others: Mercenaries and Outside Villain Agencies: Dreadnoks - Led by Zartan Headhunters - Led by the Headman and Gristle Red Ninjas - contracted by Cobra Commander Red Shadows MARS/Iron Grenadiers - Led by Destro ...several more... Last edited by UMAN; 12-17-2008 at 02:09 AM.. |
12-17-2008, 11:09 PM | #25 |
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Here's my take:
Now the top of the Hierachy is much like this: (keep in mind no one has ever died in my Cobraverse) Cobra Commander = King Serpentor = Emperor More or less equivalents although they try not to occupy the same space. CC hangs at Cobra Island mostly, Serpentor tries to do most of the fighting since he is a better stategist. CC is a better money maker. Destro = Marshall (0-10) Generals Overlord Tomax Xamot Gen. Mayhem (0-9) Lt. Generals Baroness Darklon Dr. Minbender Black Dragon Cesspool (0-8) Maj Generals Maj Gen Bludd Voltar Storm Shadow Dr. Venom Zartan Headman (0-7) Brig Generals Firefly Wild Weasel Alexander Destro Hannibal Interrogator CLAWS Commander (0-6)Colonels Mortal Scrap-Iron Night Creeper Leader Gristle Red Laser Venomus Maximus Big Boa Overkill Scalpel (0-5) Lt. Colonels Guillotine Snow Serpent Commander SkullBuster Cooperhead Zarana Lt Col Claymore Slice Rip It Crystal ball Escorpio Voador Neo-Viper Commander (0-4) Majors Zandar Dr. Knox Hotwire Skycreeper BLackout Croc Master Raptor Metal-Head Neuro toxin Razorclaw GhostBear Coil Crusher Hopefully that's everyone. Major(Gen) Bludd and Firefly and Zartan are all paid and treated like Generals, should they lead troops. Bludd does so more often. I treat him as the Commander of the Infantry Forces anyway. Scrap-Iron and Copperhead are Colonels. SCrap-Iron stopped working for Destro 20 years ago. Firefly and Maj Bludd have been employed for so long they don't really work for anyone else. Although Firefly rarely leads troop sizes large enough to be a General, he carries that rank and all its pay. It's more like a government equivalent. There are CIA agents that plan with generals and Colonels and their GS grades make them equivalents. Like most Terrorist organizations, Cobra doesn't have government ranks, but they hand out military titles like free taffy. Plus My Cobra Army is also a Mercenary Army so it's useful to rank as high or higher as the local commanders you are assisting. I mostly disregard the ranks we were given. I have one (0-6) Viper (Gold Sonic Viper) I use all the Version 1 styled Cobra Commanders as Cobra Colonels. Cobra Drivers are (0-2)Lts The various other Cobra Officers and Neo-vipers and Hiss drivers are Captains or Majors or Lt. depending on which ever I have the most or least of. The more I have the lower the rank. All Specialty Vipers are at least E-5 sgts. Range-Vipers and Alley-Vipers and Para-vipers and Snow Serpents are all E-7. There are no Warrant Officers but a lot of Sgt Majors. All Dreadnoks are paid as Sgt Majors except Buzzer who is a Capt. Pilots are a little different. They are all officers. But since they don't command troops they are not really in charge of anyone but themselves. Wild Weasel is the exception. I assume some of the more specialty Vipers have higher ranks to start with in general, but they hold ranks just like any other unit. Therefore a Sgt doesn't outrank a Captain ever. Now Crimson Guards that's an interesting one. For me since there are a million versions now. (This is my verse of course) All are officers, they are commissioned as Capt. right off the bat. You figure all are college educated and Lawyers or accountants. So much like our Armed forces they get commissions. They are the spies of Cobra as well. But they have other roles as well. Like the SS they are the best trained troops in Cobra. They are the Political Officers of Cobra, sort of like how Soviet era Russia was set up. So he may not be the field commander but he could just as easily put a bullet in the field commanders head and take over.. They are trained as military officers and are usually brighter than what gets put in the field. Shadow Guards are the Gestapo wing of the Crimson Guards. Crimson Guard Immortals are the Highest ranking CGs and they do serve as battle field commanders occasionally. They all hold the rank of Colonel. They are only tapped for duty to serve with Cobra Commander. Cobra Commander does not travel lightly armed. But he keeps his detachment with him at all times. If one of these guys tells you to do something you know it came straight from the Commander. Crimson guard commanders are 0-5 equivalents and they serve as Battlefield commanders and are the next step down. Most CGs are Capts or Maj and there is one attached to every unit. Like a Chaplain Last edited by Loose Cannon; 12-17-2008 at 11:11 PM.. |
05-22-2015, 04:17 PM | #26 |
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Never noticed this before but I really like the breakdown you have of the Cobra hierarchy/Chain of Command, very detailed.
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Here's my take:
Now the top of the Hierachy is much like this: (keep in mind no one has ever died in my Cobraverse) Cobra Commander = King Serpentor = Emperor More or less equivalents although they try not to occupy the same space. CC hangs at Cobra Island mostly, Serpentor tries to do most of the fighting since he is a better stategist. CC is a better money maker. Destro = Marshall (0-10) Generals Overlord Tomax Xamot Gen. Mayhem (0-9) Lt. Generals Baroness Darklon Dr. Minbender Black Dragon Cesspool (0-8) Maj Generals Maj Gen Bludd Voltar Storm Shadow Dr. Venom Zartan Headman (0-7) Brig Generals Firefly Wild Weasel Alexander Destro Hannibal Interrogator CLAWS Commander (0-6)Colonels Mortal Scrap-Iron Night Creeper Leader Gristle Red Laser Venomus Maximus Big Boa Overkill Scalpel (0-5) Lt. Colonels Guillotine Snow Serpent Commander SkullBuster Cooperhead Zarana Lt Col Claymore Slice Rip It Crystal ball Escorpio Voador Neo-Viper Commander (0-4) Majors Zandar Dr. Knox Hotwire Skycreeper BLackout Croc Master Raptor Metal-Head Neuro toxin Razorclaw GhostBear Coil Crusher Hopefully that's everyone. Major(Gen) Bludd and Firefly and Zartan are all paid and treated like Generals, should they lead troops. Bludd does so more often. I treat him as the Commander of the Infantry Forces anyway. Scrap-Iron and Copperhead are Colonels. SCrap-Iron stopped working for Destro 20 years ago. Firefly and Maj Bludd have been employed for so long they don't really work for anyone else. Although Firefly rarely leads troop sizes large enough to be a General, he carries that rank and all its pay. It's more like a government equivalent. There are CIA agents that plan with generals and Colonels and their GS grades make them equivalents. Like most Terrorist organizations, Cobra doesn't have government ranks, but they hand out military titles like free taffy. Plus My Cobra Army is also a Mercenary Army so it's useful to rank as high or higher as the local commanders you are assisting. I mostly disregard the ranks we were given. I have one (0-6) Viper (Gold Sonic Viper) I use all the Version 1 styled Cobra Commanders as Cobra Colonels. Cobra Drivers are (0-2)Lts The various other Cobra Officers and Neo-vipers and Hiss drivers are Captains or Majors or Lt. depending on which ever I have the most or least of. The more I have the lower the rank. All Specialty Vipers are at least E-5 sgts. Range-Vipers and Alley-Vipers and Para-vipers and Snow Serpents are all E-7. There are no Warrant Officers but a lot of Sgt Majors. All Dreadnoks are paid as Sgt Majors except Buzzer who is a Capt. Pilots are a little different. They are all officers. But since they don't command troops they are not really in charge of anyone but themselves. Wild Weasel is the exception. I assume some of the more specialty Vipers have higher ranks to start with in general, but they hold ranks just like any other unit. Therefore a Sgt doesn't outrank a Captain ever. Now Crimson Guards that's an interesting one. For me since there are a million versions now. (This is my verse of course) All are officers, they are commissioned as Capt. right off the bat. You figure all are college educated and Lawyers or accountants. So much like our Armed forces they get commissions. They are the spies of Cobra as well. But they have other roles as well. Like the SS they are the best trained troops in Cobra. They are the Political Officers of Cobra, sort of like how Soviet era Russia was set up. So he may not be the field commander but he could just as easily put a bullet in the field commanders head and take over.. They are trained as military officers and are usually brighter than what gets put in the field. Shadow Guards are the Gestapo wing of the Crimson Guards. Crimson Guard Immortals are the Highest ranking CGs and they do serve as battle field commanders occasionally. They all hold the rank of Colonel. They are only tapped for duty to serve with Cobra Commander. Cobra Commander does not travel lightly armed. But he keeps his detachment with him at all times. If one of these guys tells you to do something you know it came straight from the Commander. Crimson guard commanders are 0-5 equivalents and they serve as Battlefield commanders and are the next step down. Most CGs are Capts or Maj and there is one attached to every unit. Like a Chaplain
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05-22-2015, 09:18 PM | #27 |
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i like the IDW Serpentor idea as a religious type leader.
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05-22-2015, 09:36 PM | #28 |
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I need to update my list from 7 years ago?!?
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05-23-2015, 11:28 PM | #29 |
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Fans put Major Bludd as a leader even though he was never really part of Cobra in the Marvel series. I guess the 80's cartoon has more influence than some admit.
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05-24-2015, 02:55 AM | #30 |
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It really depends on your joe/Cobra verse. Top level could be:
1. Cobra Commander/Serpentor/Krake(take your pick) 2. The inner circle: (in most story arcs) Destro/Baroness/Tomax&Xamot/Dr. Mindbender 3. Faction leaders( named characters in charge of a private army) Zartan/Night Creeper Leader/Headman/Black Dragon 4. Commissioned Officers (2nd in command) Gen. Mayhem/Voltar/Venomous Maximus 5. Mercenaries: (All named characters capable of leading troops) Maj. Bludd/Lt. Clay Moore/Black Major/ etc. Again, it depends on your cobra verse. If you follow the movies, Storm Shadow, Zartan, and Firefly are in the inner circle. Once you're out of the named characters(individuals): highest on the list are: 1.Cobra Commander's Imperial Guards (trusted and hand picked by CC himself) 2. Cobra's Secret Police: Crimson Shadow Guard 3. Cobra's C.I.A.: the Crimson Guard 4. Python Patrol( troopers who have been recognized for expertise in their particular role) 5.Officers: (Cobra/viper/Snow Serpent/Undertow/Iron Anvil/etc.)officers Now they're broken down into their branches (army/navy/Airforce) 6. Vehicle drivers:(hiss drivers/strato-vipers/Lampreys/etc.) 7. Specialized vipers(troops beyond basic training who have trained for a specific role) (Night-vipers/Alley vipers/tele-vipers/etc) 8. Vipers/cobra troopers: (dependent on your cobraverse, possibly one in the same) Blueshirts are normal everyday Cobra soldiers/ Vipers are the exact same troopers in a combat uniform (in my cobraverse) 9. The demoted: (troopers who are given an assignment as a form of punishment) (Desert Scorpions/Leaky Suit Brigade/bio-vipers/monstro-vipers/ venomized troops:coil crushers/razor troopers/snow wolves/zombie vipers/etc.) 10.non humans:( cobra la Royal guard/B.A.T.S./Skeletron/Kraken/Muton) In my cobraverse, Cobra Commander is the undisputed/uncontested leader of Cobra. Serpentor and Krake are Cobra Generals. Golobulus and Baron Ironblood are leaders of private armies, in the service of Cobra. Of course, this is just my breakdown of Cobra's chain of command and hierarchy. |
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