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01-28-2015, 03:30 PM | #11 |
Commando
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I'd have dealt with it a lot better if they'd just gone all-out and made Sue Black as well. As it is, it's just stupid and looks like Trank cast his mate from Chronicle cuz they're buds.
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01-28-2015, 03:33 PM | #12 |
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Eh, it's Johnny Storm. Chris Evans played the character about as well as it can possibly be played and the movies still sucked.
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01-28-2015, 05:55 PM | #13 |
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A lot of speculation based on a teaser trailer, lol... I'm sure everything will be explained. And how dare Storm Troopers be black!!
I seem to recall the Kingpin's race changed, and even Nick Fury's without a huge backlash. Seriously, WTF people, relax.
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01-28-2015, 08:54 PM | #14 |
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Trank and Jordan's attitude(along with 500 other things) turned me off this movie long ago....some quick points
1)I dislike the changing of Johnny because it was a totally transparent move by Trank to cast his buddy in this movie.....so everything about the Storms is changed to facilitate this. If they had cast a black actress to be Sue it would be so much more organic & palatable . They have changed the entire Storm dynamic for the sake of "diversity & freshness".......sounds like Trank is selling a fuckin tampon advert everytime he talks about this. 2) Doom is now a blogger......I surely don't need to explain why this is horrific. 3)This trailer is unrecognisable to me as a FF movie. if I didn't know better I wouldn't have known what I was looking at.....VERY bad sign. but mainly as I said at the start its been Trank & Jordans attitude that has turned me off...this whole "they will go see it anyway" tripe they have been peddling really annoyed me. I WAS a fan of Jordans.....no more though. |
01-28-2015, 09:41 PM | #15 |
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It's funny, watching the trailer again now it made me wish that this was a movie about Hank Henshaw, the Cyborg Superman, instead of the FF. They totally ripped off the FF origin for him, but with the twist that the four scientists all died horrible deaths due to the effects of the radiation.
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01-29-2015, 07:51 AM | #16 |
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It's funny, watching the trailer again now it made me wish that this was a movie about Hank Henshaw, the Cyborg Superman, instead of the FF. They totally ripped off the FF origin for him, but with the twist that the four scientists all died horrible deaths due to the effects of the radiation.
Wasn't there another group that DC had that ripped on the FF origin too? I wanna say Eiling's Ultramarine Corps? But I cant be sure. |
01-30-2015, 10:08 AM | #17 |
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Wildstorm was already a subsidiary of DC when they introduced "The Four" in Planetary. Which were basically "What if the Fantastic Four were some really evil bastards?"
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01-30-2015, 02:48 PM | #18 |
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Not even remotely the same thing....Good God. One was changed for a VERY good reason and the other has a precedent in the comics. 1) Kingpins race change made perfect sense-they were stuck on the physical end of the spectrum. They needed someone to fill Kingpins shoes which MCD(RIP) did very well. End of story. 2) Nick Fury is based on the Ultimate Nick Fury model which has existed in the comics since the early 2000's. End of Story Jordan's casting matches NEITHER scenario above & has totally mutilated the Storm family unit to fit Trank's desire to cast his buddy. If your going tell people to relax? You might want have all the facts before you wade in.......Storm is an A list comic book character....his race/gender/nationality etc etc etc should NOT be changed. its not like b characters like Alicia, Heimdall, Ripcord etc etc. Also people complaining about Stormtrooper's being black are way off. its documented the Empire started conscription/recruitement due to Jangos DNA degrading in between ep 3 & 4. Even if it wasn't? there is zero to suggest they were all clones in the OT let alone in this one. Plus we know ZERO concerning the scene context. Again.....none of these points have any relevance to Jordan's casting as Storm. |
01-30-2015, 03:32 PM | #19 |
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Ripcord was Black because the character was originally intended to be Stalker, but then they thought, "hm, Black guy named after a criminal sexually predatory behaviour might not be a good idea" and changed him to Ripcord.
Now, granted there are other Black Guys beside Roadblock, Heavy Duty and Stalker, but people would've probably then wound up bitching about Alpine not being a mountaineer, Doc being a pacifist not a soldier, etc. so making a white guy Black was probably the best call... |
01-30-2015, 03:53 PM | #20 |
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Not even remotely the same thing....Good God. One was changed for a VERY good reason and the other has a precedent in the comics.
1) Kingpins race change made perfect sense-they were stuck on the physical end of the spectrum. They needed someone to fill Kingpins shoes which MCD(RIP) did very well. End of story. 2) Nick Fury is based on the Ultimate Nick Fury model which has existed in the comics since the early 2000's. End of Story Jordan's casting matches NEITHER scenario above & has totally mutilated the Storm family unit to fit Trank's desire to cast his buddy. If your going tell people to relax? You might want have all the facts before you wade in.......Storm is an A list comic book character....his race/gender/nationality etc etc etc should NOT be changed. its not like b characters like Alicia, Heimdall, Ripcord etc etc. Also people complaining about Stormtrooper's being black are way off. its documented the Empire started conscription/recruitement due to Jangos DNA degrading in between ep 3 & 4. Even if it wasn't? there is zero to suggest they were all clones in the OT let alone in this one. Plus we know ZERO concerning the scene context. Again.....none of these points have any relevance to Jordan's casting as Storm.
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