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11-09-2008, 11:36 PM | #101 |
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Actually, what made us lose Vietnam was the vacillation of people back here at home. A Viet-Cong general (who's name escapes me at the moment, sorry)released his memoirs last year, and it turns out the VC were only about 3 days away from surrendering when we halted the Tet offensive and turned tail and ran. That's military history, and I don't want to go too much further, since this could easily turn into politics (which I don't want). The point is that Mlos1 is right. Ewoks killing Stormtroopers is just make-believe
Ewoks had rocks, Vietnamese had Russian weapons shipments we were trying to stop. Other than the barbaric way they treated anyone who were against them, they weren't that primative. Unfortunately about the only way people learn about the war is in movies like "Casualties of War" and "Apocolypse Now" that show the directors leftist views. Don't forget Francis Coppola, Oliver Stone, etc were the same people who would wear CCCP t-shirts in anti-war marches while burning the U.S. flag at this time. |
11-11-2008, 11:03 PM | #102 |
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I remember hearing about that on the news. I'm amazed that it didn't get more publicity, but that would require the mainstream media to break their 40+ year streak of bashing our troops.
Ewoks had rocks, Vietnamese had Russian weapons shipments we were trying to stop. Other than the barbaric way they treated anyone who were against them, they weren't that primative. Unfortunately about the only way people learn about the war is in movies like "Casualties of War" and "Apocolypse Now" that show the directors leftist views. Don't forget Francis Coppola, Oliver Stone, etc were the same people who would wear CCCP t-shirts in anti-war marches while burning the U.S. flag at this time. |
11-11-2008, 11:34 PM | #103 |
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Actually, what made us lose Vietnam was the vacillation of people back here at home. A Viet-Cong general (who's name escapes me at the moment, sorry)released his memoirs last year, and it turns out the VC were only about 3 days away from surrendering when we halted the Tet offensive and turned tail and ran. That's military history, and I don't want to go too much further, since this could easily turn into politics (which I don't want). The point is that Mlos1 is right. Ewoks killing Stormtroopers is just make-believe
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11-12-2008, 03:24 PM | #104 |
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There's a book out there called "Insultingly Stupid Movie Physics" (which can be found on Amazon), which I'd recommend for anyone viewing this thread. Things I learned from this book...
The WW2 carrier motif of small fighters attacking big ships doesn't work in space. Since fire is at the speed of light (they use the word lasers often enough in SW), it is almost impossible to miss unless the target is also moving at said speed (which creates a thousand other problems). Also, if the fighter is rushing you when you blow it up, you now have a couple tons of burning shrapnel flying at you at several times the speed of sound with nothing like air or gravity to slow it down. Basically, every fighter pilot would be a on kamikaze mission with horrendous destruction on both sides. Oh yeah, and lets not forget the little gem at the begining of ROtS where a ship in orbit starts to list forward and everyone starts falling toward the front of the bridge. Don't these ships have artificial gravity? It went out you say? Nope, 'cause objects in a stable orbit have zero gravity, no matter how close they are to the planet. Oops! |
11-12-2008, 03:35 PM | #105 |
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tombstone when both brothers are shot in the same night.
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11-12-2008, 08:47 PM | #106 |
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I remember hearing about that on the news. I'm amazed that it didn't get more publicity, but that would require the mainstream media to break their 40+ year streak of bashing our troops.
Ewoks had rocks, Vietnamese had Russian weapons shipments we were trying to stop. Other than the barbaric way they treated anyone who were against them, they weren't that primative. Unfortunately about the only way people learn about the war is in movies like "Casualties of War" and "Apocolypse Now" that show the directors leftist views. Don't forget Francis Coppola, Oliver Stone, etc were the same people who would wear CCCP t-shirts in anti-war marches while burning the U.S. flag at this time. I never see the media "bashing our troops." That's just an attack used by one side that thinks we should never question any government actions when their people are in office. I know in the 70's some who opposed the Vietnam war took that out on the vets, which was not the right way for them to vent that anger. However, now when people disagree with the government's actions I see them as questioning those who make the decisions to send troops to war, not bashing the troops who have no choice in the matter. |
11-12-2008, 09:19 PM | #107 |
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I never see the media "bashing our troops." That's just an attack used by one side that thinks we should never question any government actions when their people are in office. I know in the 70's some who opposed the Vietnam war took that out on the vets, which was not the right way for them to vent that anger. However, now when people disagree with the government's actions I see them as questioning those who make the decisions to send troops to war, not bashing the troops who have no choice in the matter.
When was the last time you saw a story about the Iraqi people glad Saddam's dead and that we're building roads, schools and hospitals over there on our dollar? Probably never. Ask one of the vets who come home only to sign up to go back again because of the good we're doing, they'll tell ya what you aren't seeing. The media's all too eager to show John Kerry saying our troops are raping and murdering in the night, or have some anonymous Iraqi saying they were abused. Honestly if it weren't for Fox News and talk radio we would all be led to believe our troops are evil butchers. Hmmmm, maybe that's why the left is trying so hard to reinstate the fairness doctrine to silence them. |
11-12-2008, 09:51 PM | #108 |
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Yet another perfectly good thread about to go up in flames.
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11-12-2008, 10:00 PM | #109 |
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Indeed. Which part of "no political content" do people never get?
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11-12-2008, 10:12 PM | #110 |
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My apologies to all for responding there, but I can't let baseless accusations go without a counter-argument. Maybe the thread will get closed, but it would be better if a mod could delete the posts from zartan1 on this page and my above response. back on topic: I hate when movies go directly from a scene in the middle of the day to a scene with a pitch black sky when it seem that only 10 minutes should have elapsed between the events in the two scenes. One thing I do like is when movies get actual reporters from a national network or a local station for news stories that appear on televisions in the movie. |
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