06-06-2008, 12:33 PM
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| | Cobra Brewmaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San jose, Ca. United States Posts: 2,005 | Punisher:War Zone
Looking forward to this very much. I just got the teaser poster last night. Its glossy! I am a huge punisher fan going back to the limited series by Zeck. No other character has fans as rabid as he has and no other character has as extreme non-fans. Seems like you either like him a lot or hate him with your whole soul. http://www.micurio.com/collection/ed...ection?cid=484  | 
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06-06-2008, 12:50 PM
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| | The Last Gunslinger Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,142 | Big fan since I was in High School. The movies haven't done him justice so far, but I love the character so much I still watch them. The only fear I have is that Thomas Jane, who became a big fan himself, dropped out because he didn't like the direction the new movie was going. That's not a good sign.
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06-06-2008, 12:57 PM
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| | Cobra Brewmaster Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: San jose, Ca. United States Posts: 2,005 | Agreed. Jane is missed. But who knows, maybe this can be good. I'll see it no matter what at least twice in the theaters. | |
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06-06-2008, 01:00 PM
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| | proud YoJoeSexual Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the line at the local moviehouse eagerly awaiting the Joe movie this August. Posts: 1,341 | Quote:
Originally Posted by RolandofGilead  The only fear I have is that Thomas Jane, who became a big fan himself, dropped out because he didn't like the direction the new movie was going. That's not a good sign. | why is that not a good sign? thomas jane's opinion scares you?
have some faith. it may surprise us all. | |
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06-06-2008, 01:37 PM
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| | The Last Gunslinger Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chino Hills, CA Posts: 2,142 | "Scare" isn't really the right word, how about "worried?" It's because Jane came to really understand the character and remained a fan long after filming was over. He even wrote a few of the Marvel Comics. If he left because he felt the movie wasn't worthy of the Punisher, then there's a good chance he's right.
Of course, you are correct in that he could be wrong. It could have been personal bias and the movie will be great. I'm watching it either way.
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06-06-2008, 01:52 PM
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| | Cobra Viper Join Date: May 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 422 | Quote:
Originally Posted by RolandofGilead "Scare" isn't really the right word, how about "worried?" It's because Jane came to really understand the character and remained a fan long after filming was over. He even wrote a few of the Marvel Comics. If he left because he felt the movie wasn't worthy of the Punisher, then there's a good chance he's right.
Of course, you are correct in that he could be wrong. It could have been personal bias and the movie will be great. I'm watching it either way. | I think your first assessment of Jane's reluctance to reprise the role is spot on. Should that be the only criteria to NOT see this film, NO. But when an actor has issues with a character they have brought to life (Jodie Foster in Hannibal comes to mind) there is always a reason to wonder why? So much of the film depends on the actor and they casted an unknown that has been acting for like 15 years. To boot there is no A-list talent to this. How do you all think it will fare at the box office? I think it will it make its 30million budget back, of course depending on what it opens against. But assuming it has no competition it should break even. | |
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06-06-2008, 01:57 PM
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| | proud YoJoeSexual Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: In the line at the local moviehouse eagerly awaiting the Joe movie this August. Posts: 1,341 | Quote:
Originally Posted by RolandofGilead "Scare" isn't really the right word, how about "worried?" It's because Jane came to really understand the character and remained a fan long after filming was over. He even wrote a few of the Marvel Comics. If he left because he felt the movie wasn't worthy of the Punisher, then there's a good chance he's right.
Of course, you are correct in that he could be wrong. It could have been personal bias and the movie will be great. I'm watching it either way. | im glad youve made up your mind to make up your mind once youve seen it.............i REALLY wish some of the joe fans on this site would subscribe to that about the Joe movie.
but, being a fan, no matter how big a fan, doesnt make thomas jane the foremost authority on whats good and whats not.
i love batman as a character, but i hated every batman movie so far, save for returns...which i found okay at best. | |
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06-06-2008, 01:59 PM
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| | Cobra Soldier Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 6 | By all accounts, it's Jane's vision that was the problem. I loved his protrayal of Frank, but he wanted to turn him into, in his words, Travis Bickel. Which is not exactly what Frank is about. Also the script that he wanted to do with the director of the first movie was pretty horrible sounding (the final battle taking place inside a Wal-Mart???)
Based on all the interviews from people involved with the movie, the word "MAX" (as in the comic) gets brought up everytime. So I think that can be a very good thing.
Also, to date, Jane has not written any of the Punisher comics (or Marvel comics for that matter). | |
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06-06-2008, 02:03 PM
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| | Bizarro Cobra loyalist Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,126 | I'm kind of feeling the way that Roland does on this one. I read the Aintitcool article a few months back where Jane explained himself, and after reading it, I also felt a bit worried. Jane came off as a serious fan, and someone who left for right reasons:
Just found it: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32673
Of course, you guys are right in that his opinion may diverge from any of our own, BUT he sounds to me like a fairly like-minded person (look at the movies he lists!), and most importantly, someone with a sincere appreciation for the character who left the movie because the studio wasn't treating the character the right way.
Having said that, Iron Man and the early word on Hulk makes me want to give Marvel the benefit of the doubt. . .but then again, this one will be co-produced by Lionsgate. . .
--edit: I like the idea of Punisher as Travis Bickel. Though Frank Castle may be a tad more of a sadistic fuck, they are both way, way off the deep end, in a good way  .--
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06-06-2008, 02:08 PM
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| | Cobra Viper Join Date: May 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 422 | Quote:
Originally Posted by karamazov80 I'm kind of feeling the way that Roland does on this one. I read the Aintitcool article a few months back where Jane explained himself, and after reading it, I also felt a bit worried. Jane came off as a serious fan, and someone who left for right reasons:
Just found it: http://www.aintitcool.com/node/32673
Of course, you guys are right in that his opinion may diverge from any of our own, BUT he sounds to me like a fairly like-minded person (look at the movies he lists!), and most importantly, someone with a sincere appreciation for the character who left the movie because the studio wasn't treating the character the right way.
Having said that, Iron Man and the early word on Hulk makes me want to give Marvel the benefit of the doubt. . .but then again, this one will be co-produced by Lionsgate. . .
--edit: I like the idea of Punisher as Travis Bickel. Though Frank Castle may be a tad more of a sadistic fuck, they are both way, way off the deep end, in a good way .-- | I agree 100% with everything you said. I base every film on my eyes and my eyes only but it says something when the main actor jumps ship. | |
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