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08-06-2009, 09:49 PM | #21 |
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why not? woudn't rogue hate damn near everybody b/c she's white & from the south? or is she too stupid to hate b/c she's from louisiana? ;)
anyway, if anything i thought nightcrawler had a part gypsy background to his heritage similar to magneto's which would cause them to have something in common. what would be interesting is if nightcrawler had also known magda growing up.
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Nightcrawler being Belasco circa Earth X etc.
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08-07-2009, 07:57 AM | #23 |
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I grew up reading the X-Men. I'm also a big fan of Excalibur.
Believe it or not, the "Nightcrawler" character (along with Storm) started off as a reject from DC's League of Superheroes. He was a cruel, wild imp from the dimension of Hell. He was more animal then man, and he was as one-dimensional as you could get! When he migrated to Marvel, the was greatly altered to something more human. In fact, it his level of humanity that make him one of the most popular X-Men, next to Wolverine. Nightcrawler is German and you can see it in his dialog text (Marvel likes to throw around accents). His is also Catholic, but he is never preachy about it - hell, one of his girlfriends was a witch. He is vary insecure, but he counters this with flamboyance. He is a big fan of escapist fiction, like Errol Flynn movies, and Edger Rice Burroughs novels (Tarzan, and John Carter of Mars), and he fancied himself as a heroic swashbuckler. Magneto on the other hand, started off as a two-dimensional megalomaniac, but then he was fleshed out as a bitter, resentful survivor of the Holocaust. He has been a villain, anti-hero, and even a hero. He was noted as being Jewish, but their are some debate about him being Roma (Gypsy). Its not too far-fetched, because the Holocaust also calmed many Poles, Gypsies, and suspected dissidence. But he his mostly regarded as a Jewish man. Also, his children - Pietro & Wanda Maximoff - are Roma. |
08-07-2009, 08:26 AM | #24 |
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The issue is brought to Nightcrawler several times.
There's a story with Excalibur when a guy that leads a bunch of mutants in a kind of experimental base tolds him something like "the likes of you" referring to the Nazis...NC knocks the guy instantly. I can remember -in one of the many battles- Magneto doing a "homo superior" speech, and NC making a point of it, that Magneto being a holocaust survivor is thinking like their captors, and magneto lashing out at him saying something like "i would not accept that from you" Moira McTaggert also makes a comment about the whole issue of Magneto/jewish/homo superior/germans, and NC saying "not all germans were nazis" and giving her the eye. Sorry, it's difficult to translate, and i don't remember well.
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Magneto has always been my favorite comic book character of all time.
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