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08-26-2009, 11:27 AM | #121 |
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I believe in spirits, in so far as trace presences we glance out of the corner of our eye. I don't believe them to be the souls of the departed (life after death/salvationist ideals are social constructs, created to deal with the creation of a 'work for food' way of life).
I think spirits are either something in their own right, or just slips in reality whereby another reality inhabiting the same 'space' falters for a moment, and we get a glimpse of someone not of this reality (by the same token, when you or I have a sudden sense of momentary disorientation...) . I used to have all kinds of theories about spirits...but the harder I looked at them, the less obvious they were.
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08-26-2009, 11:31 AM | #122 |
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Nah, I rarely attribute much of anything to spirituality or anything of the sort but that place was so off that it freaked me out. Though the real-estate agent had a pair of ginormous more than obvious dentures that kind of creeped you out when he flashed that crap eatting grin.
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08-26-2009, 11:37 AM | #123 |
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No. I believe that there are scientific reasons to explain what people see, hear, or feel, anything from tricks of light to brain tumors. There have always been things that are hard to explain, but they get explained eventually as we learn more and experiment more.
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08-26-2009, 11:40 AM | #124 |
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I don't discount the possibility that ghosts exist, but since there's absolutely no accepted scientific evidence that they do, despite centuries of claims to the contrary, I'm definitely not banking on it.
And the same goes for all pseudoscience. "It is far better to grasp the universe for what it really is than to persist in delusion, no matter how satisfying and reassuring," Carl Sagan said. I couldn't agree more. There's a logicial explanation for everything, whether we know what it is or not. Edit: gilborrego just beat me to it. :b |
08-26-2009, 11:46 AM | #125 |
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I don't discount the possibility that ghosts exist, but since there's absolutely no accepted scientific evidence that they do, despite centuries of claims to the contrary, I'm definitely not banking on it.
And the same goes for all pseudoscience. "It is far better to grasp the universe for what it really is than to persist in delusion, no matter how satisfying and reassuring," Carl Sagan said. I couldn't agree more. There's a logicial explanation for everything, whether we know what it is or not. Edit: gilborrego just beat me to it. :b |
08-26-2009, 11:53 AM | #126 |
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I used to live in a haunted house as in my early teens. Everyone that lived there experienced something.
Loud knocking sounds in the restroom. Lights turning off. TV's turning off. My grandma saw a shadow against the wall, of someone coming down the stairs, and no one was there. I saw a white silhouette of someone coming down the stairs at night once. Another time I saw the white silhouette of someone running across the kitchen. Agh! It was so much fun~
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08-26-2009, 12:34 PM | #127 |
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Just because humanity doesn't yet have the understanding to logically put something we don't understand into terms that we do doesn't mean that there isn't a definite scientific explanation for it. Everything in existence is built on countless, specific, complex cause-and-effect events, and so just because we don't yet have the knowledge to see the actual, specific structure of a certain event, just because we lack the knowledge to form a reasonable explanation for phenomena that we can't make heads or tails of, doesn't mean that there isn't one. It just means that we haven't found it yet (which is no fault of our own, since on a cosmic scale, humanity's incredibly young and inexperienced). |
08-26-2009, 12:45 PM | #128 |
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Excellent answer. There are many things that science can now explain that were once considered "supernatural". Perhaps it's just a matter of time before a scientific explanation is developed, or perhaps it will not. But just as politicoviper said: Just because science can't explain certain phenomena doesn't mean it isn't still happening.
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08-26-2009, 06:59 PM | #129 |
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To be perfectly theatrical, I've seen things you wouldn't believe. Ghosts aren't even that weird, they're just imprints, images in a place. Like moving photographs. There are actually a few variably plausible scientific ways to explain a non-conscious, visible moving image persisting after a death.
However, those are ghosts. Ghouls, sicknesses, shadows, those are other things. And I'm not nearly familiar enough with any of you to start spilling those stories
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08-26-2009, 07:46 PM | #130 |
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Also,Ive always have had "night terrors"(it feel like someone or something abruptly wakes you up out of your sleep and you are in a state of confusion and aloneness and you need to get to the closest person around you,well thats how mine are) and still do once in a blue moon but when I was around 18 or 19 it got really bad and there were times I was actually sleep but was fully aware of what was going on(not visually though)and it felt like some small was walking on my bed as well as my chest. I told this trinidadian women I worked with at the time and she told me that Im experiencing (dont laugh) a small demon trying to enter my body,later on I read these we're also known as an incubis or something like that. The lady told me the more afraid of it I was the worst it would get and if I yell at it and got angry with it it will leave,I did this several time and I swear,I havnt experienced it since. |
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