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View Poll Results: Would you take your wife's last name? | |||
Hell no, I am God Emperor of this marriage! | 79 | 58.09% | |
I don't really care, but I'd prefer to go with the flow of tradition. | 29 | 21.32% | |
If she doesn't mind, sure. To the pits of Hell with tradition! | 15 | 11.03% | |
I prefer to avoid the nonsense completely and just keep our own names. | 13 | 9.56% | |
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07-25-2009, 10:56 PM | #131 |
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Meh, who cares.
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07-25-2009, 11:03 PM | #132 |
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No, not really. Different and equal are two totally separate things. According to dictionary.com:
Equal: Like or alike in quantity, degree, value, etc.; of the same rank, ability, merit, etc.: two students of equal brilliance. Different: Not identical; separate or distinct: three different answers. To make an analogy, two dimes and a nickel are equal in value to a quarter, but they aren't identical.
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07-25-2009, 11:04 PM | #133 |
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No, another attempt at killing silly, outmoded notions that clearly put one gender in a superior position to the other. Big difference.
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07-25-2009, 11:12 PM | #134 |
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07-25-2009, 11:18 PM | #135 |
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Okay, pal, what is this so-called notion of family you have? I'll bet it's something like this:
1) The woman takes the man's name without question. 2) The man is the head of household and his wife obeys his authority. 3) The wife is relegated to being a dainty little housekeeper. Am I pretty close there, chief?
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07-25-2009, 11:27 PM | #136 |
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I define traditional marriage and family values as this:
A man and a woman get married, treat each other with compassion and respect, set the boundaries in their relationship (who'll do what), have children if they choose to do so, raise those children with a balance of affection and discipline and teach the same values to the children as they mature. They remain monogamous with one another. Who takes whose name doesn't seem to erode any of that. If the woman wants to keep her name or the husband chooses to take her name, so be it. Diff'rent strokes for diff'rent folks. Unless by traditional values you mean the man is in charge and the woman takes a subservient role and, basically, does what the man tells her to do. I would tend to view a healthier relationship as one where the two people involved act as a team and sincerely care for the happiness and well-being of the other, meaning they are open to compromise for the other's sake, as opposed to one person taking the dominant role at the expense of the other. Though I acknowledge there are a lot of women (and some men, too) who are looking for people to tell them what to do rather than form a partnership on equitable terms. I guess it all boils down to finding the right match for you. If you're a traditional guy, then find a traditional woman, as they're plenty of them out there. Just don't complain when they want to stay at home and take care of the house and children, don't want to work, and expect you to financially support them (and lose respect for you if you are unable to do that, because in a traditional relationship the man is the breadwinner and the woman the homemaker, and if she has to work to make the family ends meet then the man is NOT doing his job). My parents had a very traditional marriage. My father was the breadwinner and my mother, while she had some part-time jobs that made some extra money, was the homemaker. She stayed at home when I was growing up, and Dad worked very hard so she would be able to do that. If you want a traditional marriage, good. But be prepared to work hard so your wife can stay at home and do her traditional things. Don't expect her to contribute a whole lot to the payment of bills. It's your job to support her. Last edited by Barefoot Jedi; 07-25-2009 at 11:31 PM.. |
07-25-2009, 11:30 PM | #137 |
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Okay, pal, what is this so-called notion of family you have? I'll bet it's something like this:
1) The woman takes the man's name without question. 2) The man is the head of household and his wife obeys his authority. 3) The wife is relegated to being a dainty little housekeeper. Am I pretty close there, chief? #2....no, but head of the household does seem to go to the man....my wife doesn't obey me, but we do identify the masculine and feminine qualities that are unique to each of us #3...no, whoever makes more money works outside of the home and the other raises the children. I make significantly more so she stays home. I think this is great and honorable. My sons have a great advantage over those not raised by a stay at home Mom. #4....Traditional family is a two parent home, with one man and one woman, who together raise children. I think most people would define this as a traditional family. |
07-25-2009, 11:34 PM | #138 |
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Okay, pal, what is this so-called notion of family you have? I'll bet it's something like this:
1) The woman takes the man's name without question. 2) The man is the head of household and his wife obeys his authority. 3) The wife is relegated to being a dainty little housekeeper. Am I pretty close there, chief? Let's see, women in more traditional roles reduces the number of people looking for a job, less people to jobs means less people unemplyed. More mothers at home raising their children means more children with proper adult supervision, less time o get into trouble. So mom being at home taking care of her family is bad? LEt's examine why men traditionally worked while women traditionaly stayed home. Until the last 60 or 70 years, most human societies were agricultural. Men are physically more suitable to hard labor the an women, while women are better nuturers and better child rearer. A lot of societies ills are because the traditional family is gone. |
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07-25-2009, 11:38 PM | #139 |
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I guess a relevant question would be:
If one is the head of the house, how does one handle it when one's partner bucks the system? Meaning, one day you and your partner have a major disagreement and they've followed your lead mostly but in this situation, they refuse to comply and boldly and brazenly do what is against your wishes. Obviously it'll depend on the situation, but let's say it's this: They spend several thousand dollars on a car that you don't think the family needs even after you have said no. |
07-25-2009, 11:38 PM | #140 |
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And why is that so bad?
Let's see, women in more traditional roles reduces the number of people looking for a job, less people to jobs means less people unemplyed. More mothers at home raising their children means more children with proper adult supervision, less time o get into trouble. So mom being at home taking care of her family is bad? LEt's examine why men traditionally worked while women traditionaly stayed home. Until the last 60 or 70 years, most human societies were agricultural. Men are physically more suitable to hard labor the an women, while women are better nuturers and better child rearer. A lot of societies ills are because the traditional family is gone. |
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