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02-15-2019, 12:07 AM | #1 |
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The Online marketplace has decided that instead of complying to the supreme court Wayfair tax decision themselves and writing software to comply,
They decided they want customers and small time sellers to do it for them and shoulder the liability costs. -------------------Example 1 This is Amazon's rollout of Wayfair tax compliance. https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/custo...ate_sales_tax# Note that apparently:"you're liable to file and pay taxes as a customer and seller" not amazon. That means "YOU find and comply with ever single tax law, we ain't searching the hundreds of tax laws you're exposed to now" ------------------Example 2 Here's Ebay's. https://www.ebay.com/help/selling/fe...harges?id=4121 In a nutshell, what it actually means is: "In addition to having to set up the tax table yourself and make sure you're in compliance YOURSELF to all the tax laws in the United States, you also pay a sales tax, AND a revenue tax on the actual money you made. You file the revenue part yourself to ever single state, city, and U.S. Government you owe taxes to and you're liable for it. Good luck" ====================== Remember when I said I was worried, now I'm even more worried. The stance large E-tailers, Amazon and Ebay haave chosen is, we can't comply with the Wayfair decision, this is too much liability. Let's shove it on the customer. If they can comply with ALL the American tax laws, fine, if they can't, we don't get sued!!! Or more likely, they don't do it correctly or intentionally dodge taxes, in which HAHA, we still don't get sued!!! (Just to let you know, it's very unlikely you will be able to comply. Ebay for example requires you to set tax tables for EVERY SINGLE state to technically comply. Yourself. Every SINGLE detail and requirement, up to date to current tax law btw. That means you would have to keep track of your Sales taxes going to every single state, file paperwork per state, city etc. As well as repeat this step with your REVENUE Tax.) |
02-15-2019, 12:18 AM | #2 |
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When does this become effective?
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02-15-2019, 01:33 AM | #3 |
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This is complete bullshit. I downright refuse to either pay or most definitely collect sale taxes as I believe strongly that it is wrong to tax people for simply making a purchase. Sales taxes only serve as a means to allow the rich yet another means to not pay their fair share by nickel and diming people of lower incomes.
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02-15-2019, 05:24 AM | #4 |
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I have an online business, I looked into this briefly.
There is most likely a transaction threshold you must pass or a dollar amount of sales you have to pass in each state before you have to start keeping track.
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02-15-2019, 01:14 PM | #5 |
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This is complete bullshit. I downright refuse to either pay or most definitely collect sale taxes as I believe strongly that it is wrong to tax people for simply making a purchase. Sales taxes only serve as a means to allow the rich yet another means to not pay their fair share by nickel and diming people of lower incomes.
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02-15-2019, 02:12 PM | #6 |
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The Amazon one, in Virginia IIRC we used to have to do that before Amazon started charging sales tax, it was just a line in your state tax return where you would volunteer that information. There was zero enforcement and I don't know anyone who ever paid anything.
(luckily for me I never ordered online, tax man hahahaahehehgvhsgdhdhbdhga...) |
02-15-2019, 02:47 PM | #7 |
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The Amazon one, in Virginia IIRC we used to have to do that before Amazon started charging sales tax, it was just a line in your state tax return where you would volunteer that information. There was zero enforcement and I don't know anyone who ever paid anything.
(luckily for me I never ordered online, tax man hahahaahehehgvhsgdhdhbdhga...) |
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02-15-2019, 07:56 PM | #8 |
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Effective immediately. Those rules were actually listed underneath a recent purchases I made on Amazon. Ebay has listed this for a while now.
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There is also no guarantee some state or city won't put their thresholds at zero so they can tax you. In fact it's in their interests to tax you since you don't live there so you can't influence the vote for their local politicians. |
03-18-2019, 10:44 PM | #9 |
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Between this and Ebay's "cute" new "All Fixed Price Auctions Are Good Until Cancelled" change*....it's wonder if anyone will bother with ebay that isn't a big corporation.
*Just went into effect. If you have over 50 free listings set as Fixed Price (Buy it now only), then ebay scoops up the seller fees as those items automatically relist every 30 days unless cancelled or sold. |
03-19-2019, 11:26 AM | #10 |
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This is stupid. I’d like to fallow my previous statement with, no one will comply with this.
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