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01-15-2019, 02:22 AM | #1 |
A Makeupless Clown
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Here we go again... USPS rate increases are set to hit January 27, 2019. Prices are up, up up! But that's not all. They are now instituting zoned rates for First Class as well. Gone are the days that you could just keep a single price in your head for shipping 1-3 figures or so to any place in the country. You will now need to know what "zone" the destination zip code is in for YOUR origin zip code (there is no static chart of zones, it's based on distance from your origin zip code...check your own zone chart here). So...that's a thing that's happening.
They are also changing the dimensional weight divisor from 194 to 166 (but that won't go into effect until 06/23/2019). However, when that divisor change hits they will also be applying dimensional weight to ALL Priority shipments where the package is over the cubic foot (1728 cubic inches) limit, not just those being shipped to zones 5-9 as was previously the case. Here are the new First Class retail rates: Code:
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01-15-2019, 10:44 AM | #2 |
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Damn... $5-6 bucks for a First Class package??? Might as well spring for Priority.
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01-15-2019, 12:10 PM | #3 |
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You ain't seen nothing yet Xerofall. I got no comforting news this year, I've been stressing for weeks over this at the shop.
Supreme Court Way fair decision is kicking in over the next 6 months or so, when that happens, municipalities, cities, states, anyone can attempt to collect e-commerce taxes with the tax bills they passed. That means we pay pay pay. Also ebay used good taxation will become a thing, and you might pay sales tax as a percentage TWICE on new goods online currently. According to our lobbyist association, It's gonna be a joke, American E-commerce and U.S. citizens will suffer hard while middlemen, foreigners and big companies like Amazon will dominate hard this year. |
01-15-2019, 12:14 PM | #4 |
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01-15-2019, 12:16 PM | #5 |
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You ain't seen nothing yet Xerofall. I got no comforting news this year, I've been stressing for weeks over this at the shop.
Supreme Court Way fair decision is kicking in over the next 6 months or so, when that happens, municipalities, cities, states, anyone can attempt to collect e-commerce taxes with the tax bills they passed. That means we pay pay pay. Also ebay used good taxation will become a thing, and you might pay sales tax as a percentage TWICE on new goods online currently. According to our lobbyist association, It's gonna be a joke, American E-commerce and U.S. citizens will suffer hard while middlemen, foreigners and big companies like Amazon will dominate hard this year. |
01-15-2019, 02:52 PM | #6 |
Range Viper
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You ain't seen nothing yet Xerofall. I got no comforting news this year, I've been stressing for weeks over this at the shop.
Supreme Court Way fair decision is kicking in over the next 6 months or so, when that happens, municipalities, cities, states, anyone can attempt to collect e-commerce taxes with the tax bills they passed. That means we pay pay pay. Also ebay used good taxation will become a thing, and you might pay sales tax as a percentage TWICE on new goods online currently. According to our lobbyist association, It's gonna be a joke, American E-commerce and U.S. citizens will suffer hard while middlemen, foreigners and big companies like Amazon will dominate hard this year. When will this start? So we will have to pay or charge a tax when we sell something on ebay?
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01-15-2019, 05:00 PM | #7 |
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Ah crapola I had thought that online tax thing didn’t stay in the tax bill. Have to find the exact language on it.
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01-15-2019, 09:48 PM | #8 |
A Makeupless Clown
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https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...enate-bill/976 https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...ouse-bill/2193 That means that at present the only guiding principles are what was laid out in the South Dakota v. Wayfair SCOTUS decision available here. The basic idea being that South Dakota's law should be the model for any states wishing to take up an interstate sales tax collection regime because their law took pains to make the burden minimal to merchants. In other words, for the time being this is a state issue and only a state issue. Elect your state representatives with care if you do not wish to have your state impose a sales tax on your online purchases. Heck, you should be electing state and local reps with care anyway. People tend to forget that. With all that said, however, the states with sales tax have already and always required consumers to pay a "use tax" of equal amount in the absence of having paid sales tax to the merchant, so...anyone who is supremely worried or upset about this is really only identifying themselves as long-time tax cheats.
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01-16-2019, 10:03 PM | #9 |
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With all that said, however, the states with sales tax have already and always required consumers to pay a "use tax" of equal amount in the absence of having paid sales tax to the merchant,
so...anyone who is supremely worried or upset about this is really only identifying themselves as long-time tax cheats. Its not about the taxes btw, it's about the fact it hasn't been legislated yet who and who can't collect those e-commerce taxes from who, so currently our store and many others are open to pretty much unlimited risk for the foreseeable future. The shop I work for is currently liable to be sued in the future for tax collection by any Tom Dick and Harry Municipality who can push their E-commerce tax bill the fastest and currently are liable technically to EVERY SINGLE tax law from every region. You want to know what our insurance company did to us after wayfair was decided in June last year? Our accountant told us our insurance premium payments increased by 37% on average. |
01-17-2019, 01:34 AM | #10 |
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Uhmm, Zap. . . . . That actually really hurts. . . . . you know? I am a person too.
Its not about the taxes btw, it's about the fact it hasn't been legislated yet who and who can't collect those e-commerce taxes from who, so currently our store and many others are open to pretty much unlimited risk for the foreseeable future. The shop I work for is currently liable to be sued in the future for tax collection by any Tom Dick and Harry Municipality who can push their E-commerce tax bill the fastest and currently are liable technically to EVERY SINGLE tax law from every region. You want to know what our insurance company did to us after wayfair was decided in June last year? Our accountant told us our insurance premium payments increased by 37% on average. Quote:
I don't know any of the particulars of your employer and their insurance policies. What part of their insurance policy (or policies) covers sales tax losses (lawsuits brought by states or municipalities alleging sales taxes owed were not paid)? I'm not aware of general liability insurance covering that but I'm truly curious. How is their insurance related to the possibility of a retroactive sales tax lawsuit? I am under the impression that the liability insurance covers customer claims for injury and such, but not insurance against sales taxes. I have never run a small business and my Google searches came up with nothing relating to sales tax coverage in any insurance information I could find from insurers advertising various and sundry "small business" insurance packages. I don't mean these questions flippantly at all, it's just that what I'm hearing doesn't make sense to me on the face of it and I can't find evidence to overrule my "smell test." And I don't mean I'm calling "BS" on your part...when the housing bubble burst I had my homeowner's premium literally double year over year and when I complained my insurer told me that the increase was because of the bubble bursting and that they had a lot of losses claimed in my region. Well, even if we assume my insurer had a lot of foreclosed properties on their sheet, they don't cover homeowner sabotage, waste due to neglect, or most anything else a vacated and soon-to-be-foreclosed-upon house might have happen to it anyway. No way did they have double the covered losses due to foreclosures and poor housing sales. They may have had a significant percentage of customers canceling their policies when they abandoned their house, but they weren't paying out claims like hot cakes. In my experience, insurers - especially insurance agents - will tell you whatever they can think of as an excuse to wring money out of you if you let them. So I wonder if the premium increase your employer faced was just opportunism left unchecked. Anyway, I agree that the legislative vacuum about how out-of-state sales tax can be applied is not a good and comforting thing for retailers. However, the SCOTUS decision does set up precedent for striking down sales tax schemes that do not do certain things. So, for you and for your employer, perhaps it should be of some comfort to know that the SCOTUS decision was based in-part on the fact that the contested law in ND was only being applied prospectively. A protection in the ND law from retroactive sales tax application is one of the things SCOTUS specifically said allows ND's law to fly. From Justice Kennedy's opinion (emphasis added): Quote:
The question remains whether some other principle in
the Court’s Commerce Clause doctrine might invalidate the Act. Because the Quill physical presence rule was an obvious barrier to the Act’s validity, these issues have not yet been litigated or briefed, and so the Court need not resolve them here. That said, South Dakota’s tax system includes several features that appear designed to prevent discrimination against or undue burdens upon interstate commerce. First, the Act applies a safe harbor to those who transact only limited business in South Dakota. Second, the Act ensures that no obligation to remit the sales tax may be applied retroactively. S. B. 106, §5. Third, South Dakota is one of more than 20 States that have adopted the Streamlined Sales and Use Tax Agree- ment. This system standardizes taxes to reduce adminis- trative and compliance costs: It requires a single, state level tax administration, uniform definitions of products and services, simplified tax rate structures, and other uniform rules. It also provides sellers access to sales tax administration software paid for by the State. Sellers who choose to use such software are immune from audit liabil- ity. See App. 26–27. Any remaining claims regarding the application of the Commerce Clause in the absence of Quill and Bellas Hess may be addressed in the first in- stance on remand. Code:
Really, voluntary compliance with sales tax collection and payment with the SSUTA states would protect your employer from surprise sales tax claims from nearly half of the country's states (and their municipalities), and it looks to me as though the other 27 states (plus D.C. and Puerto Rico) are in no legal position to even try to make sales tax claims against you unless they want to end up (losing) in court. With that said, it's always possible some tax-hungry state/municipality could come knocking at your door even in the face of that - knowing that courts will overturn their tax scheme eventually but trying to fill their coffers while the matter is pending in court (assuming no injunction is granted to the plaintiffs in such a case). That kind of thing is possible, but I wouldn't let it keep me up at night if I were you. I think you're giving your heart undue strain, and assuming your employer's insurance policy actually has anything at all to do with covering them against sales tax lawsuits in the first place, that should allay any concerns you think are still justified. Your employer is (apparently) covered against that anyway. I think that insurance company or agent is playing it up in order to milk you guys if everything you've said is correct. It might be time to shop for a new insurer if that's the case. But again, I don't know those particulars.
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