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07-27-2017, 02:41 PM | #1 |
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I know that's not the right place to discuss that, but what kind of military vehicles could have in the future ?
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07-28-2017, 03:27 AM | #2 |
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Here's my thoughts on the subject:
1) MRAPs aren't going away any time soon. I firmly believe that asymmetric / counterinsurgency warfare will be the norm in the future. That means that future combat will increasingly take place in urban environments, and vehicle survivability in the face of IEDs and ambush attacks will be paramount. So I think we will continue to see troop carriers with high clearances, v-shaped hulls, electronic warfare packages, and heavily armored chassis. Vehicles that are modular - in the sense that their parts can be blown off an easily replaced - will be a common feature in the future. 2) Tanks are becoming obsolete. In the future we will see increasing lethality of IEDs and man-portable rockets, combined with more accessible air power, and the overall decline of symmetric warfare between peer competitors. This means tanks will be less useful in the future. We will see a shift towards medium armor and hybrid vehicles like the Stryker. Likewise, modular weapon systems will become more important in the sense that we will want a single chassis that can be configured with different weapons systems depending on the threat. 3) I predict that eventually we will see some sort of drone carrier vehicle. This will take the form of an MRAP or medium armored vehicle configured to carry drones rather than humans. When activated, it will release swarms of small drones that will sweep an area, and perhaps act as a command node for controlling the swarm. We might also see an airborne version of this. Manned fighters, bombers, and attack aircraft will increasingly be replaced by drone aircraft. We might need some sort of large carrier aircraft that can deploy or refuel smaller attack drones, in order to increase their range and loiter time. 4) Eventually we are going to require dedicated electronic warfare vehicles. We have already reached the point where vehicles don't roll without EW packages. The threat from drones, guided missiles, and radio-initiated IEDs will only continue to grow. In the future, convoys will likely include a dedicated EW vehicle that can defend against these threats. Crewmen would be responsible for reconfiguring the spectrum 'coverage' depending on the nature of the threat. |
07-30-2017, 12:05 PM | #3 |
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What if we new kind of tanks in the future ?
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07-30-2017, 08:06 PM | #4 |
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Mmmmmm I have to be honest, predicting what the military will look like in the future is a crapshot. It's unpredictable.
People keep saying tanks will be obsolete without realizing IFVs are essentially becoming World War 1 Tanks, which were also heavily armored IFVS that were to advance through fortifications. Drones could be a gamechanger . . . . . . If people are idiots and don't realize you can radar emissions jam them and electronic warfare is already a thing. Plus we already have weapons capable of shooting them down en masse, it's just that World Governments don't want to pay for electronic SPAAGs that use machine guns or autocannons anymore because logic. --------------- Unpredictable, what we think are gamechangers, often are not, while optic Camo, Logistics improvements and countermeasure improvements are often ignored. |
07-30-2017, 09:03 PM | #5 |
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I'm hesitant to call the concept of the tank dead, or to claim that all future wars are going to be the sort of asymmetric conflicts we've seen in recent years. Militaries often find themselves in the position of being perfectly prepared for the LAST war, not the current one. See the case of the allies at the beginning of the Second World War.. France and Britain were ready to fight WWI over, but not prepared for the combined arms tactics of the Blitzkreig. (I guess they should have listened to Liddel-Hart.)
Certainly drones and unmanned systems will play an expanded role in the future, but completely rearming for counterinsurgency warfare or ditching all our heavy armor for MRAPs and Stryker-type vehicles would leave us at a possible disadvantage in a direct confrontation with another major power. If it was up to me, I'd probably try to maintain a flexible balance between preparedness for asymmetric and conventional conflict, especially with the example of Russian use of hybrid warfare tactics in Georgia and Ukraine.
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07-31-2017, 06:15 AM | #6 |
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Drones could be a gamechanger . . . . . . If people are idiots and don't realize you can radar emissions jam them and electronic warfare is already a thing. Plus we already have weapons capable of shooting them down en masse, it's just that World Governments don't want to pay for electronic SPAAGs that use machine guns or autocannons anymore because logic.
Also, our current and future theaters of concern are not the kind of countries renowned for their EW and AA capabilities. Just because a weapon system is not useful against a near-peer symmetric adversary does not mean it is completely useless. By your logic, why should anyone invest in low-speed, low-altitude, prop-driven attack aircraft? I mean, they would be useless against someone like Russia or China, right? And yet the Super Tucano is selling well precisely because it is the right tool in the right place for the right job... And that does not always mean fighting Russia or China. |
08-01-2017, 04:45 AM | #7 |
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You are thinking in very black-and-white terms. There is no such thing as a magic bullet that makes a weapons system totally useless or obsolete. Even with electronic warfare on the rise, we will continue to see an arms race between innovation and countermeasures.
Also, our current and future theaters of concern are not the kind of countries renowned for their EW and AA capabilities. Just because a weapon system is not useful against a near-peer symmetric adversary does not mean it is completely useless. By your logic, why should anyone invest in low-speed, low-altitude, prop-driven attack aircraft? I mean, they would be useless against someone like Russia or China, right? And yet the Super Tucano is selling well precisely because it is the right tool in the right place for the right job... And that does not always mean fighting Russia or China. The solution could actually be that easy peazy, or it could be difficult with them responding with countermeasures, lasers, signal coding and light flares and all sorts of imaginative insanity MIT or research labs bring out. One thing will lead into another, then another. . . . . then another. . . . then another and so forth. |
08-01-2017, 09:17 AM | #8 |
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What if we have tumbler-like vehicles ?
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