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11-26-2008, 10:28 AM | #1 |
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So i have been watching this show since it started but im just lost now. Is this supposed to bridge the gap between part 2 and 3? if so whats the deal. in part 3 john seems to have no recollection of these past events, even when Arnold's character brings up judgment day John is surprised and replies "we blew up cyberdine i thought we stopped it"
So in the show the robots are everywhere, everyone is coming back from the future, T-1000 redhead lady is running some kind of research for AI, Jonh is a huge pussy, some chick from the future is seducing him...WTF? whats up with all these sub plots where is this show going? The only thing i can think of is when the show comes to an end someone is going to have to jump back to the first episode and make so none of these event ever happened. Is this based on a comic series or anything? |
11-26-2008, 10:33 AM | #2 |
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I believe like one or two episodes in on the first season they effectively jumped over T3 so it never happened. (woo hoo!) SO for that fact, along with the chick from Firefly and the awesome first season Finale are why I keep watching. It's plus its more enjoyable than Heroes.
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11-26-2008, 10:40 AM | #3 |
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I believe like one or two episodes in on the first season they effectively jumped over T3 so it never happened. (woo hoo!) SO for that fact, along with the chick from Firefly and the awesome first season Finale are why I keep watching. It's plus its more enjoyable than Heroes.
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11-26-2008, 10:42 AM | #4 |
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I think basically, they've "undone" everything we know about the future. even in the upcoming Terminator:Salvation" trailer, John Conner says "This isn't the future we were warned about", or something like that. Plus Derek Reese said to his girlfriend that they may come from 2 alternate futures if they've changed things.
It's a great show, but I think they're giving it the kiss of death by moving it to Fridays in the Spring. I'm just waiting for Walter from Fringe to show up and say something like "oh, yeah, I remember working on one of these robots..." |
11-26-2008, 11:05 AM | #5 |
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This show is just crap and should not be considered canon. I actually liked T3 because he realizes that you can't stop Armageddon. John can never be born if Armageddon doesn't happen and the machines send back his father to knock up his mom.
The show bends all of the theorems on time travel to the breaking point. Every time they send someone back, it wouldn't effect their present. You'd think that if the machines killed John Connor in the past he would simply disappear from their present. The thing is, the reason behind them creating a time machine and going back would disappear. There are two outcomes, they can never change the past and the machines sent back are doomed to failure or they can succeed and someone else rises to fill the role of Connor to again create a need for the machines to create the time machine. Though they could send an assassin to kill John Connor, they would create an alternate time line that would branch out from that point and not effect their present. I believe in this one the most as there are too many things going on to keep track of, and you could not predict that those changes wouldn't effect what lead you to making the decision to go back in the first place. |
11-26-2008, 11:39 AM | #6 |
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it started out a good show but the horrible character development and many sub plots that are confusing dont fit in the story and seem to go nowhere are killing it. im just not sure where this show is trying to go.
they are kind of makin john look like a bitch rather then a bad ass leader that people die for and follow his every order. i hope they dont do that in T4 Last edited by HissCommander; 11-26-2008 at 11:42 AM.. |
11-26-2008, 11:49 AM | #7 |
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Only The Terminator and Terminator 2: Judgment Day are part of the Sarah Conner Chronicles continuity. T3 doesn't exist.
I just finished watching 2x10. I like the show a lot because of the Terminators and I love the idea behind it all. Also because I grew up with it and it was totally cool and badass as a kid I do agree the plot of this new series about time travel doesn't make much sense but at least there's a story. If the time travel did make sense, the movies weren't even all that great about it either if you think about it. If they send back a couple of T-1000 back when John wasn't born yet, his father Kyle Reese wouldn't be able to handle it with pregnant Sarah. End of story. Machines being totally smart and logic win. brock Samson, you're right about John ceasing to exist if the group will actually prevent the Armageddon from ever happening. Unless the writers come up with a very cheese plot to create a time machine and happen to send Kyle Reese back which is highly unlikely... D: !!!SPOILER!!! I like the fact Cromartie is the brain of the supercomputer at ZeiraCorp. Makes the plot more interesting. I wonder if Ellison actually realizes what the cold calculating Catherine Weaver the T-1000 is doing and actually informs John & Sarah Conner about this. He must know by all means Cromartie is evil... Unless he's too ignorant and thinks he can actually teach him the 10 commands... LOL The future John is already changing, making a lot of mistakes to get his good men killed according to Jesse. I really wonder if Cameron is the cause of it all. So many things have happened already which could have changed things the way they were. Even the hint Jesse and Derek actually changed the young Charlie Fisher to be a torturer because of how they tortured and murdered the old Charlie Fisher right in front of his eyes... They think to know stuff, but actually do a heck of a lot of damage as well, thinking they are doing the right thing! |
11-26-2008, 12:05 PM | #8 |
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As these guys already said, ignore T3.
And you'll have to ignore the upcoming T4 as well. Two different continuities going on: Cont 1: Terminator, T2, T3, T-Salvation, T-5, T-6 Cont 2: Terminator, T2, Sarah Connor Chronicles |
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11-26-2008, 12:20 PM | #9 |
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this sounds like the most logical solution. though they do make a few references to T3 they have just strayed too far off the path for the show and movie to connect. unless they pull a bob newhart and this all ends up being a dream or some stupid shit
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11-26-2008, 12:23 PM | #10 |
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All I know is I reminded my wife to tell the future me to send back a hot terminator chick to help out around the house. And other things.
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