|06-12-2009, 10:36 PM||#41|
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Madison, WI
|06-12-2009, 10:55 PM||#42|
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Westtown, NY
|06-12-2009, 11:09 PM||#43|
Cobra P.R. Director
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Tigard, OR
....and knowing is half theYo Joe!
|06-12-2009, 11:43 PM||#44|
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: South FL
So lets take this into a prospective shall we? Judging based on the car vs car... You have ARAH, and 25th ARAH. Ok? Now lets take that `69 Camaro SS, and the 2010 Camaro SS
You have Vintage, then New Age)Classic( Contemporary. Follow? You have two originals in position while a new version for the updated era. Both stand on their own and have different likes and dislikes, pros and cons. Are both perfect? No. But are they enjoyable? They can be if you let them. So while you could spend 60 K on a 69 Camaro and 20-30 on a newer one you can have built the way you want from day one... Now... on the other hand here's something else to look at. Get that 2010 Camaro, in 20 years it is considered Classic status. Mine would move into Antique status .
we all have our enjoyments out of these figures, regardless of their short commings. Be thankful for what we have, and have had... don't complain for what we do not have.
|06-13-2009, 12:04 AM||#45|
Join Date: Sep 2008
I agree but I disagree. Of course the modern line is riding the original lines coattails...its based on it. You can't put down the modern automobile as a hack because it's riding it's predecessors coattails because it's ultimately the point.
Your argument about repaints, while true, is also based on demand of the times. Back in the 80's and 90's when ARAH was going strong, we saw very limited releases from their waves thus more time to plan, design and sculpt new molds. Now with us rabid opinionated fans who will burn any toy producer for taking too long, we have Hasbro trying to meet our demands by hurridely giving us almost ALL of the Joe line up from the 80's in a year and a half. Were they to take 7 years to do all that they would 1) lose money and 2) irritate the hell out of their collector community.
Point is, the repaints are a necesarry evil, but I'm sure we'll see new sculpts as the line continues.
That said... this thread cannot possible come to a conclusion of who's better...old or new. Opinions vary and both lines have thier tried and true followers.
I go with the new because I see the update to an old idea as a better way to go. As stated, an evolution. If holding weapons and sitting in a vehicle were the things to hold a figure to then yes, hands down ARAH would top it in my book... but with MUCH better sculpting (Chuckles will have ears, working holsters, women look like....women and so forth) this line has nothing but pros over the old line. Despite some flawed articulation there is hardly any breakage resulting in the need for a new figure...sure there's some, but some people have had stuck joints... Everyone experienced a broken thumb, foot peg issues (broke off in hole or heel broke, and of course crotches.) With issues like that, I can't possible look at an old figure and think it has it;s newer counterpart pegged. So my old Duke can hold his gun with two hands... assuming he has both thumbs.... He sill doesn't compare to his 25th counterpart. Slit wrists or not...
For certain its my opinion, but I think a lot of the opinions are swayed by loyalty versus reality. Like somehow folks are betraying their younger selves and the things that made them happy by moving on... Nostalgia is a great and powerful thing and I think it shows here.
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|08-29-2009, 03:31 PM||#46|
Join Date: May 2009
Nothing will ever replace arah. It was perfect. For its time it was modern. I remember TRU having one and a half rows full of joes as high as I could see. No toy then or now commands that kind of shelf space. They werent as modern as now thats because it was 27 years ago. I hope, toy engineering has progressed in that amount of time. They bred immagination and creativity. Nowadays I can buy my kids a $100 toy, they will play with it for a day and fling it like baby poo. The modern era line is testemony to the coolness of arah. You have 30 years olds everywhere lining up to drop $58 on an alpine figure. That being said I love the ME line, its the greast thing since arah. I never collected or played with toys as an adult until 2007. I was taking my kids through Target and out of the corner of my eye I saw what resembled the red white and blue on a black back round. The foil immedietely caught ahold of my ADD. I stood and gazed at the rack in disbelief. I was at once a 6 year old boy again. I stood there quivering with excitement, I could not move or say a word until my wife said HONEY, HONEY, why dont you buy a couple of them. Oh look they have Storm Shadow. I @ once began riffleing them into the shopping cart by the handfulls, not paying any mind to the near seven dollar price tag. I assured my wife this was I one time thing, and I was content to buy these and relive arah. The next day I tried to forget about them but I thought about them clear through the pastor's sermon as if I had also regained the attention span of a six year old boy on Christmas eve. From there we went to my sister in laws b-day party. I snuck away from the festivities and procurred a spot on the internet, barely knowing how to use it. In a caveman like attempt to find them I typed in GI JOE under google. I had no idea there was a ME line out. That very day I discovered Hasboro Toy shop. Now you can hardly see sinderblock on my basement walls. I dont do much else in my rec time besides collect the ME line. It allows me a temporary daily reprieve from the stress of work, bills, exc. for that I am truely grateful.
|08-29-2009, 04:43 PM||#47|
Sigma 6 Aficionado
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Dirty Jersey
I like the vintage sculpts and the modern sculpts. the only ones i don't favour are the VvV sculpts.
lover of all joes
find my feedback here http://www.hisstank.com/forum/buy-se...imlocksps.html
|08-29-2009, 04:46 PM||#48|
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Bessemer City, NC
25th by a mile. Come on, it's the same guys in the same outfits 25 years later. Of coarse they're better! Nothing will take the place of the older Joes, but updated product is always a plus.
|08-29-2009, 09:45 PM||#49|
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Buffalo, Ny
I bought a vintage Big Boa today for 6$anda vintage Cobra Pogo(with original box!), even though I have mostly 120 25 th figures sitting in a nice galss curio case.I actually display ARAH along with 25th figures. I also have a vintage Rattler w/Wild Weasel. Should I buy the new version?
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