|05-14-2008, 06:31 PM||#21|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Kansas City
i don't mind the reuse of parts either. hasbro always has done this. i don't see what the big deal is. the 1st viper was a repaint of the cobra trooper. that repaint commands up to a $100 or more on ebay nowadays. i prefer quality to quanity, but i really think we're getting both.
|05-14-2008, 06:36 PM||#22|
Join Date: Jan 2008
It's not always as easy to combine these parts on a mass scale as it is for a customizer. In some cases the parts do not fit together quite right without a bit of modification. So while chest A and waist B might seem like a good combo to us, it is not always possible. Now if they would have thought further ahead they could have made all of the parts more interchangable (all same size neck balls, etc.) That would have made things much easier all around and allowed some combos at are not possible at this time.
|05-14-2008, 06:42 PM||#23|
JOES BEFORE HOES
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Westland, MI
|05-14-2008, 06:44 PM||#24|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Monrovia, CA
I had prayed to Baby Jesus that I would never see the "deserve" card thrown around again, but apparently he wasn't listening, so I will ask again. Can you please bestow your toy collecting children with the logic that there has never been a single toy or character that has ever deserved anything. These are inanimate plastic objects, not real beings that have a universal right to life, liberty and the pursuit of uniquely sculpted sleeves. They don't have feelings or needs, and nothing about them deserves respect, admiration or unique parts. Please help in spreading the word that a pair of pants or a shirt or sleeve is really no different than another, so it simply is ridiculous to complain about the fact that two separate characters have the identical wrinkle in their shirt.
Your humble customizer,
|05-14-2008, 07:02 PM||#25|
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Colorado Springs, CO
Reused parts has always been and probably always will be a part of the process. It didn't bother me in 1982 and it doesn't bother me now.
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|05-14-2008, 11:06 PM||#26|
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: New Jersey
It doesn't bother me, either. As long as it works, I don't care. I'd rather have a larger collection of Joes than a few that are unique. And so far they've done a good job. I may look at a few and think "this might work better here" or something like that, but I'm fine otherwise. My only real gripe with that was Flash/Grand-Slam. They have the exact same head, body, etc. Not a big fan of that. Otherwise, keep 'em coming!
|05-14-2008, 11:20 PM||#27|
Mercenary for Hire
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: City of lost angels, Cali
I think hasbro is doing a good job, even though there re-using molds IMO. ok some like Duke for instance irks me when they used the entire body except the head for a Flint figure yea they were lazy! but some are barely noticeable. heck i didn't notice Stalker was a Snake eye's body till I really took a good look at it and noticed. I don't mind rehashed body's.
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|05-14-2008, 11:42 PM||#28|
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Join Date: May 2007
I'm with you, most characters should have totally new parts. For those of you who disagree... meh. I'm pretty tired with the old "we should be happy with what we get" routine. There's ALWAYS room for improvement. There's absolutely nothing wrong with complaining about this, considering that Hasbro's willing to do completely new sculpts for the SAME FIGURE when it comes to Star Wars. How many sculpts does a Clone Trooper need, for example? Do other versions really need different molds, when they all look the same? Mind you, I'm not talking about improved versions down the line - I'm talking about things like in the ROTS line, when at least three different versions of the Clone Trooper mold were released at the same time, when all they really needed was the super-articulated version.
As for, "Hasbro always did this" - Yes, but only to a certain point. It was done for the initial 1982/83 figures. After that, it was a very rare occurance. What, I think Doc and Duke shared arms in the second series? Can't think of any offhand in '84 - even with figures they could have gotten away with (ie: the same head for SS and Firefly), they didn't do it. In '85 Tomax and Xamot obviously shared a few parts, and we got a repainted Tripwire but he wasn't part of the regular line. Any in '86? None unless you cound the regular issue Sgt Slaughter or the Mission Brazil set. Any in '87 other than a couple mail-aways? After that we got the familiar Tiger Force, Python Patrol, Night Force, etc figures but those were always outside the main line. Most of these examples are straight repaints of the same characters anyway, not "frankensteined Joes". Only ones that were were extra special figures like Starduster, Steel Brigade, Claymore etc.
So yeah, a lot more effort was put into RAH as a whole. The 25th frankensteined figures still look pretty good but the fact that few of them are really unique molds just makes them feel less special. For example, people talk about how detailed they are but then you look at Major Bludd and it's the WRONG detail - it's for someone else!
Going back to Star Wars, I'm hoping Hasbro eventually goes this route with GI Joe, and starts doing new sculpts of figures like Flint, Major Bludd, SE V2 and the rest. Who knows, maybe it'll happen. They can release as many repaints of army-builders as they want, but I miss the individuality of the RAH characters in this line.
Oh, and one more thing - Bazooka definitely deserved his own mold! Love that figure!
|05-14-2008, 11:57 PM||#29|
The Song is Over
Join Date: Apr 2008
I don't mind it. I even get a kick out of playing "spot the similar pieces", honestly. Such as Shipwreck and Spirit's upper arms being the same. That made me chuckle, and they both look good with them, so there's no real issue.
Also, I am fairly certain Tiger Force Flint has the same upper arms, because of the musculature of the forearm.
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