|01-08-2010, 04:23 PM||#21|
Over zealous Joe Recruit.
Join Date: Dec 2009
Hasbro essentially makes toys for kids.
Kids want characters they recognize.
They recognize guys and gals from shows they watch.
If there is no cartoon, there is nothing to capture kid's interests.
specially with so many other properties trying to capture their attention.
as for comic books.....come....everyone knows the majority of comic readers are adults.
As much as I disliked the ROC movie...I will admit that it brought attention back to Gi Joe.
Now there is a new cartoon in the works.....we'll see what happens.
Saturday morning cartoons are sucking nowadays anyway.
and I dont even think they play cartoons in the morning before school anymore like when I was a kid.
|01-08-2010, 04:23 PM||#22|
Join Date: Apr 2009
I think that GI Joe is a brand that Hasbro has always focused on the kids, not the collectors. Collectors are fans that have an emotional tie to a product. The only reason vintage 3 3/4" Joes are so valuable is because a lot of us Tankers played with them as kids and remember all the fond memories. Therefore, there is a desire to hang onto that memory by collecting.
Hasbro has done their homework. It is the reason that they are still a profitable business, especially in this economy. Inflation has caused prices to go up. We pay more because of Hasbro's costs and their need to make a profit. Reusing molds is very cost effective.
I think the ROC stuff is really cool. While it's great to have seen the 25ths made, new product keeps things fresh and develops more fans. For those of you who are parents, do you really want your children to grow up liking the EXACT same thing you enjoyed as a kid?
And, while IDW has had some slow stories in some of their issues, I think they have some interesting concepts developing that just need some time to come to fruition. I particularly liked seeing the origin of the Pit.
Est. 1978- GI Joe addict since 1982
|01-08-2010, 04:25 PM||#23|
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Cobra Island
|01-08-2010, 04:29 PM||#24|
Doodle Van Taintstain
Join Date: Dec 2002
I wish there were internet forums in the past. I would love to hear the fanboys bitching when they stopped making the 12" Man of Action type GI Joe's for the 3 3/4" Joes in the 80's. Every generation of fan has their own version of GI Joe they hold dear. Hasbro is just trying to build new interest. You think a 5 year old right now knows who Bazooka is? you think they car about a 25 year old character? Hasbro is in the toy market for (like it or not) kids. So the collectors, though somewhat important, are not the main market they are going for. Last I checked Hasbro was in the business to make money, not to make collectors happy. If they can do both, hey bonus for them. Fans who get mad that they don't do the old stuff are the same ones who get mad that things tend to stay the same. Can't have it both ways. Again, they made a crap load of 25th stuff so be happy we got what we did.
|01-08-2010, 04:37 PM||#25|
W: Lego 6990 Monorail! :)
Join Date: May 2007
Yeah, the 25th line was definitely aimed at collectors, not so much anymore. They care - I mean they still send people to the con and stuff, but not as much.
I hope they return to classic designs eventually, like what they do with Star Wars. If not I suppose we'll get some stuff from the Club, which is cool too.
Frankly, I don't care that they do it with RoC, so it's not much of an issue anymore. I just didn't like it getting in the way of a more accurate RAH character design.
Please check out http://hmcsgreatadventure.com/ - it's a mix of sci-fi, humour and the friggin' Royal Canadian Navy, eh!
Also looking to sell/trade Joes... Need Lego Futuron Monorail, Land Adventure, etc... http://www.hisstank.com/forum/g-i-jo...-t-thread.html
|01-08-2010, 04:39 PM||#26|
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Liverpool, Pennsylvania
I think we're pretty fortunate to have had 25th Anniversary Figures as long as we did.
The toy market has pretty much always followed the "new" "hot" cartoons.
Back in the day I know I followed what was popular and went from Star Wars to He-Man to G.I. Joe to Transformers to MASK back to G.I. Joe and so on and so forth.
Without ROC we may be fighting over the remanents of the 25th Anniversary line and waiting another 5 or 10 or 15 years for G.I. Joe to make it's enevitable return.
These are toys, made for kids and obsessed over by adults (me and you).
|01-08-2010, 04:44 PM||#27|
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: On the 50 Dollar Bill
As for me, I am happy with my 25th/RAH collection. If more are released that follow their format, I'll pick them up. If not, I have no problem not spending money every time I walk down the toy aisle. But, I've ranted about that before, no need to go into it again.
|01-08-2010, 04:47 PM||#28|
Join Date: Aug 2008
For all the people who bitch about ROC ruining the 25th line, think about it like this. All we were supposed to get were the original two 5-packs. Everything beyond that is a bonus. I think one of the reasons the 25th line ran as long as it did was because Hasbro wanted to keep the brand rolling along without a lag until the movie came out. If ROC hadn't been on the horizon, the 25th/Modern Era line may not have lasted much beyond the 5-packs.
|01-08-2010, 04:53 PM||#29|
Join Date: Mar 2008
REGARDLESS of how well RoC toy sales have been, and im pretty sure one of the main reasons is cause of the multiple sales tru has had and the price drop, the market is aimed at kids who really arent buying them. Sure once in a blue moon i see kids buying em and hasbro tried (and in my opinion) failed to reach the kids they wanted to with RoC and many collectors with kids are the ones who picked em up for their kids. And as far as snubbing collectors.....let em. the constant raise n lower prices, seriously pathetic time gaps between new product, new original product(not just franken joe repaints andf kit bashes by hasbro) has turned me off of collecting any of their products any more.
Sideshow/hot toys who now makes the 1/6th joes started pretty decently with the snake eyes (though i much would have prefered a commando head in addition to the visored head) and cc and duke and the trooper and officer, but the storm shadow was kind of a let down and firefly just plain out sucks from an asthetic point of view. the sniper doesnt look too bad but not really sure if im willing to drop 120 bucks for a cobra officer in slightly retooled/recolored gear.
Overall the collectors are not nor will they ever be the main focus of the joe lines, it will be kids. it was like that for us in the 80's growing up and its gonna this for the kids now, despite how much differance there is between then and now. If ya dont like it stop collecting, thats what i did. The 1/6th stuff, while not cheap or entirely accurate, is more or less where the collector market is at and despite the fact that the scale will probably never have decent vehicles (and lets face it while the thought of a 1/6th scale night raven would be a soggy dream come true) that thing would be massive and so pricey in todays economy it would be almost useless to make it. So inclosing ya the mainstream joes are lackluster to some and awesome to others. admittedly there are some decent designs but hasbros unwillingness to make all the figs they should (we still have no tech armor breaker from the movie WTF?!!) will turn off more fans than it will appease.
Last edited by Griff; 01-08-2010 at 04:56 PM..
|01-08-2010, 04:53 PM||#30|
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Join Date: Sep 2007
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